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Name: Hiddy
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I also love how you keep on using the term racist, saying that if I distinguish between breeds of dog, Im being racist...lol

This is called anthropormizing, which for those of you who dont know, (which is probably all of you) is to accredit an animal with human emotions.

In other words, for someone to be racist against you, you have to be human. Racist I am not. Never have been, never will be. And Terri, that is the problem with that pic you have posted on your website, with different faces of races of people on it. A dog is not a human, you cant be racist to a dog. That photo is ridiculous.

Id also like to say here that I think Im the only intelligent one here. Not one of you have said anything that makes any sense. Every time you try and back up your claims of the Pitbull breed being worthy to live in society, I shoot you down in flames with my knowledge and my articulation.

There is about 8 of you, and not once have you said anything true or reliable about the Pitbull. All you do is
quote pro Pitbull websites who are run by thugs.

It takes 8 of you, and you still cant think of anything worthy to say. So, do I feel threatened and outwitted by you? Hardly.
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Name: Bindi | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 8:33 AM
how do you know they are run by thugs you have no idea who runs these web sites there are plenty of actual web sites aroun who are run by professionals 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:52 AM
You consider putting people down for there opinion on the pitbull intellegent. I'm sorry but a 2 year old who hasn't been educated any further then there parents are able to insult and put people down. Doesn't seem to intellengent to me.

If you want to have a debate about something be an adult about. Don't start name calling just because someone else has a different opinion then you. This is what makes us all individuals. And another thing you can sit there and say you get your information from a text book and laugh at those who cut and pasted an article off the internet but can you honestly tell me what the difference is beside that they are ran by thugs. It seems to me that you can not handle the fact that people do not agree with you on this subject.

I have learned that there are those who are able to read a book and quote it with no problem which is apparently what you are able to do. Then there are those who have common sense and realize that not everything you read is 100% true. Just because you can take read something out of a book doesn't make you an expert just as just because you can quote a passage from a bible or several for that matter doesn't make you a good christian or even a religious person.

Infact the AKC and UKC states that these dogs are actually great with children,seniors and everyone in between. Pitbulls today are used as police/armed service dogs, search and rescuers, thereapy animals and livestock workers. But I guess the AKC and UKC are just a bunch of stupid uneducated moran and are running a thug website. 

Name: Bindi | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:58 AM
lol thats great EthansMom0213 

Name: Join a Rescue Help all dogs! | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 1:39 PM
I have not seen the photo you talk of hiddy. Could it be that it is generalized. Just giving an idea of how humans act toward one another then we stoop even lower by treating animals in different categories or breeds. when a dog is a dog no matter what breed it is. Or an animal is animal! I do believe people discrimante towards animals, but we would just call that not likeing a certain animal. I dont believe you have out qouted or out smarted anyway. because they are all still here arguing back with you. It seems as though the majority has spoken. God forbid hiddy if you were in congress the majority vote would have you outta there! 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 3:59 PM
Hiddy, have you ever even been around a well bred APBT?? As it has been stated before most people that are aginst the breed have never been near one espically a well bred dog that is sound.
True fact about the pit bull
they were/ and aresometimes still bred for their aggression towards ANIMALS.

True fact about the pit bull
when ill bred or inbred the off spring are likely to turn out faulty in temperment, in structure and tend to be prone to unprevoked attacks on humans.

True fact about the pit bull
If breeding is secure meaning full knowladge of the temperments in the dogs of both the sire and dam side are sound, the offspring will be of sound temperments towards humans.

true fact about the pit bull
a fighting dog, a dog that was used as a "bait dog" and/or a dog that was severly abused and neglected can still be the ideal family pet. With enough training a dog taken from the worst home stead can still be trusted with humans. this is true for all breeds of dogs/animals.

A true fact about the pit bull
the amount of dog attacks aginst humans and children have risin in the past 10 years, most claimes made aginst a pit bull, a pit bull mix or that of alike breed. However half of the claims are latter discovered the dog was NOT a pit bull or the alike. Those that were infact caused from apit bull or the alike were reported that the dog was mistreated in some way, the owners failed to respond to the change in the dogs temperment and or the dog was not properly trained meaning they were NOT introduced to strange people and childreen.

True fact about the pit bull
They are amung the smartest and most loyal breeds of dogs. They are easily trainable, aim to please their family and are known to sacerfice their lifes to save a humans. There are more reports of a pit bull and the alike breeds saveing a human and then dying in teh process. Lets not forget the reports of pit bulls and the alike saveing other animals from burning buildings.

I beleive its safe to say that the majority of the people here that are fighting aginst BSL have been on a few sites relateing to pit bulls in a good light. I have been involved in the breed for 11 years, and have seen some pretty nasty pitties during that time.
I was giving a female pit bull that hated people, tried attackign anyone that came near her, teeth bareing growling the ideal dog the media wants to put across to everyone. It took me one day, one day to gain this dogs trust and I had her in my house and sitting on the couch with me. The dog was three years old I beleive at the time, she was no pup, she has been nasty for some time due to being teasted and beat by peopel walking past her yard but yet, in the end she was calm and greated strangers at the door wth a small bark and a tail wag.

The fact of the matter is alot of the sites regarding pit bulls are run by people that have been dealing with the breed for 20 plus years. Most of these sites do NOT stary away from the breeds past, they do NOT say that all pit bulls attacks are phoney and they DO talk to the public about the pros and cons of the breed. They are out there trying to teach people how to house, raise and train their dogs.

Another fact is there are more older people adopting pit bulls and the alike breeds. Some of these people have said that they were led to beleive they were human aggressive dogs but once they met a dog of the breed their eyes were opened and they seen what they really were, lap loveing dogs.

Everyone here knows you are stuck on your views, you probally know everyone here that are for the pit bulls and the likes are stuck on their views. We all can keep going back and forth with our comments but nothing on our part will change. We can hope that some day you will brave it and get to know the breed one on one and deter away from your feelings on them,if at all a little. 

Name: Tiffany_SPCA | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 8:26 PM
I never said racist. Although breed discrimination CAN be COMPARED to racism. 


Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 12:57 AM
You said, "...also love how you keep on using the term racist, saying that if I distinguish between breeds of dog, Im being racist...lol

This is called anthropormizing, which for those of you who dont know, (which is probably all of you) is to accredit an animal with human emotions.

In other words, for someone to be racist against you, you have to be human. Racist I am not. Never have been, never will be. And Terri, that is the problem with that pic you have posted on your website, with different faces of races of people on it. A dog is not a human, you cant be racist to a dog...."

You couldn't be more WRONG.

Actually the term racism is defined as Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
rac‧ism  /ˈreɪsɪzəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[rey-siz-uhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

So if a hatred or intolerance of another race or other races only refers to humans then the defintion of race is wrong to because as you see in sub definition #7"Zoology. a variety; subspecies., you are a racist because you have " a hatred or intolerance of another race or other races , " of "a variety; subspecies, " known as "pit bulls".

Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.0.1) - Cite This Source
race2  /reɪs/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[reys] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a group of persons related by common descent or heredity.
2. a population so related.
3. Anthropology.
a. any of the traditional divisions of humankind, the commonest being the Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negro, characterized by supposedly distinctive and universal physical characteristics: no longer in technical use.
b. an arbitrary classification of modern humans, sometimes, esp. formerly, based on any or a combination of various physical characteristics, as skin color, facial form, or eye shape, and now frequently based on such genetic markers as blood groups.
c. a human population partially isolated reproductively from other populations, whose members share a greater degree of physical and genetic similarity with one another than with other humans.
4. a group of tribes or peoples forming an ethnic stock: the Slavic race.
5. any people united by common history, language, cultural traits, etc.: the Dutch race.
6. the human race or family; humankind: Nuclear weapons pose a threat to the race.
7. Zoology. a variety; subspecies.
8. a natural kind of living creature: the race of fishes.
9. any group, class, or kind, esp. of persons: Journalists are an interesting race.
10. the characteristic taste or flavor of wine.
–adjective
11. of or pertaining to the races of humankind. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 12:59 AM
So Hiddy ,if you are going to make uneducated and illogical statements at least know what the words you are using mean. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 7:22 AM
Poor LadyB, nothing better to do all day than worrying about what Im doing.
Oh, and by the way, while your using your dictionary to spell check me.....you should have looked up K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E
and I-G-N-O-R-A-N-C-E because lack or Knowledge and Ignorance = YOU!
Ciao! You hat full of arse holes 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 7:58 AM
And information you might want LadyB, just let me know ok?
I am an expert and Im happy to help you in your endevour to learn all about dogs and their behaviour.

Dont be shy now....Im here for you 

Name: The Grammar Nazi | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 4:27 PM
The word is actually antrhopormorphisizing, and it's actually to project any human emotions on any non-human living organism, not just animals.

But since you are the only intelligent one here, you already knew that. Oh, and no, I didn't have to look it up online, I did already know that.

Oh, and your articulation doesn't has nothing to do with your arguments, considering you don't use certain words properly. You seem to just regurgitate large words, and hope that no one realizes that you are using them incorrectly.

And your grasp of grammar is atrocious.

So please, stop trying to feel superior to the rest of us. 

Name: winnmom | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 5:53 PM
I am confused, can someone explain how one can be rasist againt an animal??Did I read this wrong or something? 

Name: winnmom | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 9:34 PM
so if I dont like a certain breed am I racist? lmao!
I have not read everything here, I could be way off . 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 9:39 PM
just read! 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 9:51 PM
Breed discrimination can be compared to racisim.
LMAO! 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 11:33 PM
Hiddy are you retarded? The definition of racism is "hatred or intolerance of another race or other races" and the defintion of race is "Zoology. a variety; subspecies." So YES if you have an intolerance for a certain subspecies of animal you are RACIST. This is not my OPINION it is the definition.

One more thing please stop saying "LMAO" you are the only one who thinks what you say is funny; other than those laughing AT you and not WITH you. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 3:36 AM
Yes, RACE....there are not RACES of dogs, they are called BREEDS....you cant be racist toward a dog, you cant even compare it!
LMAO LMAO LMAO....Oh....but Ill laugh whenever I want to! 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 11:46 AM
Hiddy maybe you're not retarded, you just can't read. My last post had the definition of "race" which included undersubsection 7 - "Zoology. a variety; subspecies ; therefore, a "breed" would be a race. Can you really not understand that by DEFINITION you are WRONG. Perhaps a better arument for you would be to say "ok, I am racist against pit bills, so what?" Because your argument that you not racist against them is wrong , as proven by definition and your own admition(s), you are racist. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 7:50 PM
When you are wrong you are wrong! ; ) 

Name: winnmom | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 8:10 PM
well I guess I am an animal racist then.....lol....thats is funny 

Name: winnmom | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 8:14 PM
I am racist against
certain dogs,
rabbits
rodents
birds in the house
mmmmm
I guess I am pretty rcist.
Sorry I find it kind of funny because I never thought of not liking certain animals or breeds as racism. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 1st, 2006 12:34 AM
Winnmom ,

The first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. ;-) 

Name: winnmom | Date: Nov 1st, 2006 6:05 AM
very true T-rabbit. :-) 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Nov 1st, 2006 10:04 PM
Retarded is really not a very nice term to use T-Rabbit.

Yes, human races, not animal races, you moron.
You cant look up race, then look up racist, and tell me they have the same meaning. The term does NOT apply to animals. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 2nd, 2006 1:39 AM
Hiddy you are right. The two words DO NOT have the same meaning. Now I will explain this for the THIRD time since you are so SLOW you cant understand. RACISM is hatred or intolerance of another race or other races. Now stop and THINK, wrap your mind around this. I am going to define the word RACE 7. Zoology. a variety; subspecies.
8. a natural kind of living creature: the race of fishes. But WAIT the dictionary must be wrong. It SPECIFICALLY defines race by using FISH. So obviously race DOES NOT JUST APPLY TO HUMANS. Now even a moron like me could understand that. And you are also right that RETARDED was not nice, you are HANDICAP. 

Name: Bethany | Date: Nov 2nd, 2006 3:57 AM
T-Rabbit...I love you..LOL 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Nov 2nd, 2006 8:49 AM
Okay, your telling me you can be racist towards a fish?
I dont think so.
Racist is a term used for the human species. You cant be racists towards an animal. It is attributing the animal with human feelings and emotions, cant do that!
Im right, your wrong. 

Name: winnmom | Date: Nov 2nd, 2006 4:43 PM
I really do not care if I am racist towards an animal or not......
It seems silly really but it does not change my life any..... 

Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 2nd, 2006 5:33 PM
I won't respond to the Hiddy that does not register in red. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 2nd, 2006 8:02 PM
Hiddy in black get a life. You are not in this debate and I am sure the real Hiddy would not want you trying to be her. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 2nd, 2006 8:03 PM
winnmom
I agree with you. 

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