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Name: M
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Considering the recent killings at Virginia Tech, do you believe that the american federal government should issue tighter gun control laws? As it is now, each state makes and enforces individual gun control laws. Also, the federal government lifted their ban on assault weapons a few years ago. Our constitution gives all our citizens the right to own and bear arms.

I think our federal government needs to make and enforce more strict gun control laws. The constitution is not relevant to the world we live in today. I also think that assault weapons should not be legal under any circumstances. If you live outside the United States, share what your government has done concerning gun ownership in your country.
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Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 4:55 PM
i do....i mean, the in the uk, we do not have as many shoot outs or drive bys as in the usa ( i think anyway) they seem very rare here...and we have strict gun laws...isnt that kinda proof that they work?

if there were tighter knife laws, there would be less teenagers being killed too, im sure. 

Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 4:56 PM
Amen. For once M I agree with you 100%. 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:00 PM
and m im sorry, but i dont actually know what the laws are, but your not allowed much of a gun i dont think... 

Name: atomicsnowflake | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:06 PM
Cars are responsible for the deaths of more people than guns. Virginia is one of the most pro-gun States in the US. They're never going to agree to give up their rights to 'bear arms'.

Gun crime in the UK is on the increase, in spite of laws preventing people having access to firearms - they're easy to obtain illegally. 

Name: maxieellis | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:10 PM
we have very strict laws in place here in Canada. Naturally there are always those that conceal that sort of thing......but as a result....i do completely believe we have less trouble. Still we do get trouble not to be missleading........but less.

The other thing is population. What is there?, 35 million in canada.......there is more people in the state of California for goodness sake. With sooooo many more people you are bound to have more incidents. And.. without tighter enforcement it will happen "even more" 

Name: Dana G | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:23 PM
I guess the problem I have with gun laws is that the criminals will end up being the only ones with guns then.

I feel a better solution would be to actual punish criminals instead of taping their fingers, saying no no, and giving them free room and board in a prison where they get free tv, movies, food and games to play. 


Name: Dana G | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:34 PM
Another thing a gang is doing in a town near here, about an hour away, is to initiate someone in the gang the drive around with their lights out and if someone blinks their lights at them to let them know, they hunt down the car and beat the person up, some even kill them....thats just sad. I think the cops need to go around blinking lights and just shooting the gangs when they get close enough! That may be harsh, but when are people going to step up and do something about things like this? 

Name: rain | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:41 PM
The laws will only effect those who respect the laws and follow them. It will not stop criminal behavior. 

Name: Dana G | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:43 PM
I agree with that completely! 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:43 PM
ooh very true rain...thats a good sum up actually. 

Name: winniebear | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:45 PM
Hello M i must say i do agree with what you just said. 

Name: M | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:46 PM
But why do our lawmakers in america allow assault rifes? Semi-automatics? These are not hunting guns--these are war guns. Why not at least outlaw them? 

Name: Dana G | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:49 PM
I feel even if they are outlawed the criminals will have them, they already have some weapons that are outlawed. 

Name: Dana G | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 5:49 PM
Or the guns they have are usually obtained illegally. 

Name: maxieellis | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:03 PM
criminal will always find a way to have a wepon......but any side arm kickin around your house can fall into young hands or.....the wrong hands. The less kickin around......less likely for some of "that" sort of thing to occur. And yes m.......they should be completely outlawed.......but again.....if there is a will there will be away......just not sold to top it all off (if they are) in "gun shops"....oh and less of those around to buy like a pound of butter or be ripped off from. There will aways "be"..........but if you crack down all the way round........there is less. The point really. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:04 PM
The constitution is the only thing we have to protect us. If we were to allow them to change bits and pieces think about what else will be changed. I have a constitutional right to bare arms and I use it. Telling us it is now illegal or harder to own them is only going to make things worse. If you tell a thief not to steal your prized possession it makes it that much more desirable. This change would only hurt the law abiding citizens. Joe blow down the road that was selling drugs would move on to selling illegal fire arms. How safe would you feel then? 

Name: maxieellis | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:07 PM
well though we have less people in this country........its all relitave i suppose..........we do have less of the occurances the US experiences.......and i beleive a direct result of tougher, tigher laws. 

Name: M | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:14 PM
James Brady was a presidential secretary who was shot and paralyzed by John Hinkley, Jr. After he became paralyzed he became a gun control advocate. They did pass a bill which outlawed assault rifles for many years. When it came up to vote and renew, it did not pass. Now we have 23 yr olds with the ability to legally obtain a semiautomatic handgun. That is what the Virginia Tech murderer used. He was not a criminal until he killed. If this legislation had been renewed he would have been a criminal the moment he obtained the weapon. The way it is now--our police officers can not do anything until an assault is committed with that weapon. This takes away a lot of opportunity to stop crime. 

Name: bebe9281 | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:15 PM
I am a big anti gun person. Perhaps it is because I don't know anything about them except that you can get a gun in Alabama easier than you can get a driver's license. Do you know that when voting a gun permit serves as a legal form of identification. And also it is legal in the state of Alabama to carry a weapon on you. (concealed)... I guess that is why there isn't much trouble here because you never know who's packin' and who isn't. 

Name: maxieellis | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:16 PM
oh how well stated M..........excellent. Your on your toes this morning on this issue and i agree 100%! 

Name: M | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:25 PM
This is a very strange thought. The virginia tech murderer was 23. He killed 32 (same numbers in his age!) 

Name: Dana G | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:27 PM
It's laws like this one that make me wonder who's coming up with the gun laws anyway...the criminals???

This year there was a new gun law added to the long list of gun laws. In Colorado and Oregon the law was passed with a huge margin. The law states that you can not buy a gun at a gun show without a background check, and for it to be a gun show there only needs to be 3 or more people. So, in other words many of the police officers in the world will now be breaking the law when the switch guns with other officers. For instance, there are four officers standing around at the police station, and a couple of them decided to try out each others gun for a day or two. Under this new law, the officers have now broken the law. Many gun owners say there is no need for this new law. The NRA and many other pro-gun groups did everything they could try and make sense of it to people. Even after spending almost 2 million dollars, they still failed. (Kleck). Sarah Brady, Chair of Handgun Control, Inc, was quoted when she said, " These two overwhelming victories clearly demonstrate that all Americans, including gun owners, support responsible gun laws which keep criminals from buying guns." This statement which was publicized in a news release, is a complete Hasty Generalization. Just because this law was passed, doesn't mean that every person, even gun owners want more laws. That could not be further from the truth. A ban on handguns will just cause more deaths. (Kleck). Just because handguns are going to be harder for the normal person to obtain, doesn't mean that it will be harder for criminals to get them. A report done by COPS, the true stories of police officers, says that no matter what is done with gun laws, it doesn't stop criminals. One of the men that was arrested said that it would only take him 20 minutes to go out and by a gun off the streets. So, by saying that the new law on gun show loophole will stop criminals from getting guns could not be farther from the truth. 

Name: M | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:29 PM
It is just that in america we have has some very sad events. The amish school house was attacked by a crazed gunman and innocent children were killed, the columbine high school shooting, and now this. I really believe our country must do something. When the constitution was written it was with a mind frame of using guns that are very different from the assault rifles that are available now. 

Name: bebe9281 | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:35 PM
The problem is.. you can make guns completely illegal.. it is unconstitutional. If you make them illegal to buy, then the sale of the guns goes into back alleys and trunks of cars.. you can't make them illegal to sell or you are hurting someone's livelihood. You can't make to many controls or you are infringing on someone's constitutional right.... Blah Blah Blah.. I am sick of people crying about the rights of criminals. Yes they may be Americans but they are criminals and should have to forfeit all of their constitutional rights as soon as they are arrested.. Let the law do whatever they want to them... Damn bleedinghearts... Whew feel better now thanks... 

Name: Dana G | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:36 PM
I agree 100% something needs done, I just don't feel getting rid of guns will get it done. 

Name: winniebear | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:39 PM
My grandfather picked up a 12 gauge and blew my grandmothers brain out of her head while he was in a drunken rage and fighting with my grandmother.Why did he have this gun in the first place?Because the law said he could.Because he just went to a person who had it for sale and he bought it.That is how easy it is to get a gun.That is why so many are being shot.The laws need to be more strict. 

Name: M | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:41 PM
I am not talking about hunting guns. I am talking about assault weapons. Why do people need them in the first place? 

Name: M | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:41 PM
I agree winniebear! 

Name: winniebear | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:49 PM
I feel assult weapons should be illegal for everyone and only used in the wars they belong.Yes why would a regular individual need an assult rifel?Our law needs to improve on this situation. 

Name: Dana G | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 6:50 PM
Some use them for tournaments M, but I know what your saying, I just don't agree. Criminals will always have weapons, no matter what the laws say : (

I'm sorry winniebear that is a horrible thing to happen. 

Name: Sezbi | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 7:26 PM
Of course.

Look at the fatality rates in other countries..America has the highest amount of gun deaths each year..and thats because anyone bascially is allowed to go out and purchase a gun

Your not allowed to do that in australia. You have to go througha strick regieme..i know about maybe 2 people who have a gun..thats IT

Same with canada..they have a lower rate of gun related deaths

It really does come down to..everyones is allowed to do whatever the hell they want..and when they snap they go grab that gun and shoot up the place. 

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