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Name: Lisa Thyr
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I have a son who is 8, he was diagnosed with ADHD in the ssecond grade. He was put on Dexcedrine and it seemed to working great in the begining. At the start of grade 2 he was reading at a 30% grade 1 level, within the first month of him taking the medication his reading had gone up to a 75%. I thought WOW this stuff is wonderful. That was in March of last year, now it's like he is imune to the stuff. He has mood swings that would put any women with PMS to shame, one second he,s fine and appears to be happy and the second he doesn't get what he wants off he goes into this hysterical screaming match. I also have a 3 year old, and he is picking up alot of behavior from his older brother. I AM doing the best I can but where I am from the resources are limited. I don't know who to turn to. I am actually thinking of calling Suppernanny to come and help. HELP1 HELP ! HELP!
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Name: jamberrt | Date: Sep 11th, 2006 11:01 PM
Have you tried to add natural stuff. My 2 year old can't be diagnosed yet but I've added lecithen to his juice every morning and before bed. Start small and add. It's granules so it gets soft - probably better in something "thicker" like OJ as opposed to apple juice cause they can see it and it looks yuckky...also changed what I use to clean the house. I have fewer migraines so maybe that helped his behavior too. I don't know if anyone has tried hot sauce. I girl I used to work with puts a touch of hot sauce on her 2 year old's tongue when she screamed. Twice. No more screaming...does that sound awful? Is it better than spanking / time outs? I think spanking may give them permission to hit and time outs after awhile...my 2 year old screams through them...BIG HUG! 

Name: Lisa Thyr | Date: Sep 19th, 2006 4:51 AM
I have never heard of leicthen, what is it and what is it used for? And where can I find it? If you have some more information on this subject that would be great. Thanks for your input!!!!!!!!! 

Name: krazmom | Date: Sep 19th, 2006 4:26 PM
Ok, 1st of all......SUPERNANNY has nothing on moms of ADD/ADHD, Bipolar, ODD, etc kids!! Because the tough things with kids like ours, what works 1 day may not even work the next. You gotta think quick on your feet to immediately find the solution....AND FAST!! I use the "basket" method with my 11 year old (doesn't ALWAYS work, I won't lie but most times it does). Basket A is my basket, those are my rules, things that aren't negotiable or can't be changed such as taking meds, no leaving the yard when playing outside, things that would hurt her. Basket B is her basket....what she wears to school picked out from outfits we've made, how she fixes her hair, things she has a say so in. Basket C is "our" basket, things we can discuss and work out a solution on such as bedtime, what time she takes a bath, whether or not she HAS to eat her peas. Things that aren't so life threatening but she shouldn't have complete control over. When something comes up I just remind her which basket it falls in and she usually calms down. (notice i said "usually") Anyway as for the meds, I'd talk to my Dr. about it, its possible the dosage isn't correct any longer, who knows. One thing I've learned is that with kids like this...panicing before you have ALL the facts....well, you're just gonna stay paniced ALL the time if you do that. I lose it from time to time, we all do..........but as for Super Nanny.......well all her charts and plans and beads in a jar and flowers in a vase and calm submissive time outs.......that crap doesn't work on our high spirited kids!! You are a super mom, you've made it 8 years, hang in there for 8 more! 

Name: Polly | Date: Sep 19th, 2006 8:52 PM
May I contact you regarding a study I am doing on ADHD children. Your son seems like a perfect candidate for what I am looking for. If so, please email me at [email protected] Thanks 

Name: Layne | Date: Sep 20th, 2006 1:53 AM
Lisa you need to look into a new medication. sometime's a change is the best. Have he tried ritalin? . Im not for certain but was thinking this is common with dexcedrine to loose its effectiveness. My son has been on ritalin for a few years and it works best. i would talk to your doctor about a dose change or medication change all together. 

Name: michellefarnham | Date: Sep 23rd, 2006 4:55 AM
I feel your pain, our daughter was diagnosed with ADHD after kindergarten, she started on adderall, lost a lot of weight, then we tried, strattera and she got a stomache ache, then we tried imiprimine, and that didn't work, finally we took her to a phsychiatrist and she was diagnosed with bipolar, but we weren't seeing those symptoms so i took her in for a second opinion and was told she has anxiety, and something not other wise specified. We are losing our minds, she is now on concerta and abilify...she has been on it for about five days. we are going crazy, nothing we do is working, we can't get her to do homework, she has a snotty attitude, she is mean to her other siblings, she wants all this stuff but doesn't want to do anything to earn it. She runs scared like she is getting beat when we are only repremanding her, or telling no....before we had the diagnosis we screamed and yelled, and now im trying to understand all these diagnosis and im going crazy, i still lose my temper and yell, im so stressed, does anyone have any advice she is eight now in second grade...please any advice!! 


Name: Lisa Thyr | Date: Oct 2nd, 2006 1:30 AM
To Krazmom
Thank you for your advice, I am also a screamer I am trying to curb my way of doing things because I have come to the conclusion that my yelling only puts fuel on the fire. Now it's just finding a new way of dealing with things. My son's father works away alot so it's just me and the 2 kids. It's just overwhelming sometimes. When we have good days they are really good days, but when we have bad days they are really really bad days.So we are slowly plugging through the good days and the bad days. You are right our kids are very spirited and wonderful, I actually think that my son's diagnosis has made me a better person and mom (try to be anyway). It's Just scary because the kids aren't old enough to make the decisions for themselves yet so we have to make the right decisions for them and sometimes it' hard to know if I am making the right ones. Thanks for your input it's nice to know that I am not the only one out there going through this. 

Name: Lisa Thyr | Date: Oct 2nd, 2006 3:15 AM
Jamberrt

I haven't tried any natural products I wouldn't know where to start. Witch cleaning supplies did you use before and witch ones do use now. I would really appreciate the input on the subject it would help alot. 

Name: parksmomof4 | Date: Oct 2nd, 2006 10:58 AM
Hi Lisa~I would suggest having a med. chech up w/ your Dr. I know w/ my son on Concerta the Dr. said he can outgrow the dosage w/ any growth spurts!! Hang in there, you're not alone in this!! 

Name: jamberrt | Date: Oct 3rd, 2006 3:31 AM
Lecithen is a natural protein? I'm not even sure. My mom used it with my brother when he was 2 in 1965!!! I've also heard on other threads of people giving their kids omega 3's. So I'll try that.

As for the "temper tantrums" (I hate that phrase)...I've taught my 2 year old to count and when I see him start to escalate I start counting and change what's happening...and I've taught him to breathe...in the nose, out the mouth and then try to redirect and we make a game of it. It doesn't always work. 

Name: jamberrt | Date: Oct 3rd, 2006 3:34 AM
Oh...lecithen. I buy it at a health food store - I'm in Canada. I know I'm in and out if conversations...we just moved and both my kids are sick. E-mail me if you want [email protected] 

Name: fancy | Date: Oct 5th, 2006 2:59 AM
hi I know what you are going though my son hes 7 and hes been on so many meds that isnt funny and now finially hes been on for the last 3 months concerta and havent heard any problems with it yet hes always crying about headaches or that his stomach hurts but right now three months later no noise out of him maybe your childs doctor needs to change the medicine I really believe that a child can get hooked on meds and after a while it starts to lose its effect just hang in there I feel that it will all work out the way I feel is it cant get any worse can it if it can I need help also then 

Name: Lisa Thyr | Date: Oct 5th, 2006 3:45 AM
Well we went back to the Dr and we are trying ritalin now I am very skeptical, I don't know I guess I have let other people scary scenarios into my head about what could happen later in life. I have heard so many bad things and some good things but the bad always seem to out way the good. I am tired of listening to all the people in my life who don't have to deal with what I go through every day, that he just needs tough love I am not being strong enough or listening to him enough. ENOUGH is enough I am finally going to what I think is right for my kid. Don't get me wrong guys I love your advice It's just the husbands family can get pushy and I am going to start to push back. Thanks for listening I needed to get that off my chest and it feels awesome 

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