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Name: Fiona
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Hi, does anyone's kids suffer from this disorder here? Are you able to tell me anything about diagnosis, treatment, behaviour tips etc.

I've had probs with my seven year old son since he was a toddler. He's not improving and school are having probs with him. He was assessed for ADHD last year, but didn't fit the criteria enough. He fits the criteria for ODD and our homelife is one constant battle. It's wearing us out. They didn't assess him for this disorder at the time. He's starting to be bullied at school as the other kids know there's something not right about him. He's very bossy and immature. He has to have the last word about everything and is starting to tell lies. He refuses to take responsibility for his actions and it's always someone elses fault.

Is anyone able to give advice or point me in the direction of any good websites with information about this disorder? Thanks.
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Name: Annie | Date: Apr 13th, 2006 7:51 PM
You're describing my son to a T. He is 7 & was diagnosed w/ADHD & ODD at the same time (5 1/2 yo). He takes RX for ADHD. The only recommended treatment for ODD is counseling. My son sees a social worker to work on behavior modification. This helps but it's still a daily struggle. One thing I've found that helps is giving his RX 1/2 hr before he wakes up. Yes you'll have to wake him up, but then when they do the morning goes so much smoother which sets the tune for the rest of the day. As far as bullied/friends go....we have the same issues. I work really close with his teacher to keep on top of this. Bossiness/Immaturity kills me. So far all I do is address it as it comes. However I don't have the time to be 2 places at the same time (i;m a single mom to him & a 7 mo old). I would try to google it to see what you come up with. The first time I heard of it was when ds was diagnosed. 

Name: Fiona | Date: Apr 13th, 2006 8:24 PM
Hi Annie - what medication does your son take? I've been reluctant to think about meds so far, but now things are getting worse I may have to. 

Name: Annie | Date: Apr 13th, 2006 9:29 PM
Concerta 36 mg. It's a one-dose pill. They'll always start you out with a 1/2 dose-so for us 18 mg. Then they adjust from there. My son is by no means a zombie. He is constantly going-physically & mentally. That was really important to me. The only side effect I've noticed is his appetite (suppressed). He has lost about 5 lbs total since starting it which is normal. He won't eat very much at a setting but would rather snack all day. Which is OK with me. His dr told me about the other meds out there but that this one was the most highly recommended since it's been on the market so long. 

Name: Fiona | Date: Apr 14th, 2006 11:47 AM
Thanks Annie. At first I thought that ODD was just a silly psych. term that they'd thought up and it was just down to naughtiness, but I've changed my mind now and have come to realise that it's a real problem.

I kicked my son's father out when he was a toddler as he caused me so many problems. He has difficulties with forming relationships and is highly controlling and bullying. I can see where my son gets it from and wonder if his father has the same problem. He's never been involved with the police, but he does drink too much.

I have a husband who's a good step-father to my son but he still has to see this jerk (the father) and it's unsettling for him. His real father will go crazy if he finds out that his son has some disorder and he'll blame it on me. I've tried my best with my son but he's so difficult. I just want him to be happy. The lies are very difficult to cope with as well as I've always brought him up never to tell lies.

I've heard of Concerta. I live in the UK so I don't know what it's called over here. I'll do a Google search I think.

I appreciate your replies. Thanx :-) 

Name: Jennifer | Date: Apr 14th, 2006 5:41 PM
my son is 9 yrs old and he has adhd and odd it is very difficuilt to deal with. if you need to talk you can email me at [email protected] maybe we can exchange thoughts good luck 

Name: Jodi | Date: Apr 19th, 2006 12:07 AM
Hi - I have never done this before but I am out of options with my child and I need advice and different opinions. My 10 year old daughter was dx with ADHD 2 years ago through the school and has seen a child psych. and was on every med under the sun for ADHD none worked. We are finally at the point of a dx of ODD my husband and I are at our wits in as she is our oldest and her younger brothers are learning her behaviors. She lies and munipulates every day. She has no respect for anyone or anything and basically thinks she runs the show. She has spent some time in a hospital for behavior modification but that only worked for so long. What types of dicipline works for your kids to try to regain control? 

Name: KathyK | Date: Jan 31st, 2007 6:34 PM
My 5 year old son was diagnosed with O.D.D. when he was 4. He has been on medication for almost a year now. He is presently on Risperdal, depakote and Mirtazapine to help him sleep at night.
I have done some research on O.D.D. because before he was diagnosed I have never heard of it before.
I found a website that gives alot of information that might help y ou as well. www.minddisorders.com/Ob-Ps/Oppo

hope that helps. There is alot of information on it for you and if you can't find anything there just go to google and put in oppositional defiant disorder.
The description of O.D.D. is that they are often disobedient. They are easlily angered and may seem to be angry much of the time. (That sounds like my son). They have temper tantrums that last for 30 minutes or longer. They willnot give up on arguments. The experiences I have had with our son is that when he gets mad he tries to hit and sometimes throws things. He screams, kicks, and has meltdowns.
If you don't already have him involved with an agency that can get him some services (tss worker, mobile therapist, behavior specialist)I suggest that you do so asap. It does help alot. My son has been working with counselors for over a year now and they have been able to teach him better coping skills. It will help birng peace to your house, trust me I know where you are at. We still have battles but they are not as frequent as they used to be. With my son it is about keeping him busy and focused. If he is bored then that is when he gets himself into trouble.
Is he on any medications as of yet? For my son these meds are working, but every child is different.
Good luck with the website, I hope it helps 

Name: kelie | Date: Feb 1st, 2007 12:57 AM
hi im in the same boat as u i have an 8yr old boy who has adhd but shows very strong signs of odd we are having terrible problems at school to te point were e has been excluded i have now been back to his consultant and asked for him to be re assesed again for odd and am justwaiting for this to be done i do understand what u r going through and good luck 

Name: mar22 | Date: Feb 3rd, 2007 5:44 AM
my son was diagnosed with adhd at 4years and i too had a husband that drank but we left when my son was 5.5years because of the unhealthy environment. my son was also displaying lots of odd behaviour but when i left the coumsellor wanted to see if it was environment so didnt write it in his records. well with allot of counseling and a behavouralist coming to the house, and a consistant same routine every night he begane to change and has gone from one angry outburting bot to a calm one. his social skills are at his right level now, he is able to make friends as before he beet on them because he didnt no how to say will you play with me, anywasy im rambling sometimes our childs behavouir is worse when they have adhd and in a bad environment because then even more stress on them and more behviours come out. i have learned that strict consistancy, counseling, behaviour summer camp, and a one on behaviouralist coming to the house has worked tramendasly in my house i wish the same for you and your family . best wishes 

Name: KathyK | Date: Feb 3rd, 2007 12:48 PM
Mar 22,
You mentioned something about summer camp for these kids with adhd. Do you know if there are any in the PA area and how would I go about finding out about them? I would love to send my 5 year old son there so he could intereact with other kids who have the same issues. I think it would be good for him to see other kids who need that extra attention.
Any information you can give would be greatly appreciated.

Name: KathyK | Date: Feb 3rd, 2007 10:54 PM
My son is 5 and was first diagnosed with o.d.d. when he was 4. He was put on medication pretty quickly after being diagnosed and has finally been put on risperdal, depakote and mirtzaphine to help him sleep. He has not been formally been diagnosed with a.d.h.d but shows signs of it and he has been on this medicine for quite some time now and like I said that medication was perscribed just for the o.d.d. If I were you I would get a second opinion about the meds and what you can do for him as far as the o.d.d is concerned. He has been getting a tss worker and mobile therapist coming to the house and that seems to help tremendously. I wish you luck, I know what you are going through. 

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