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Name: LindsayK
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Do any of you have any ideas on how to turn my daughter's sleep schedule around? She'll never go to sleep at night till between 2am and 4am. And it's a fight the whole time. She'll only fall asleep in the baby swing or while nursing. And it takes several tries to transfer her from the swing to her bassinet. If she falls asleep nursing she won't stay asleep if I move her, so most nights she sleeps with us all night, which doesn't bother me as much as the time she goes down. If I nurse her any earlier than 2am for bed, it won't stick, she'll only sleep for like 10 min. then is wide awake. B/c we go to bed so late her and I sleep half the next day away (she's up every 2-4 hours to nurse but goes back to sleep quickly). I tried keeping her up past certain times in the afternoon and evening to turn her around but it only makes her past tired and then she didn't settle down till like 4:30am. I've tried waking her up earlier in the morning, but then she just falls asleep like an hour later. Any advice?
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Name: Melissa | Date: Jan 31st, 2007 3:34 PM
it could be teething already. maybe that is why she is fighting sleep so much. my son had his first tooth by 6 months but started all the teething symptoms by 4 in a half to 5 months. maybe try giving her some tyenol before bed a few nights and see if that makes a difference. 

Name: mamaheavener | Date: Jan 31st, 2007 3:48 PM
how old...if she's still new it just kind of goes with the territory...give it a little time but by 6 weeks it should start turning around. some little ones (as with my second) are harder to break and it may take a BIG effort on your part...consistancy is the key. I used a number of methods and some babies are jsut difficult. :-) I would check out the library for some books and read up on them. Like I said no one method is the right one...whatever works for you guys. you'll have many sleepless nights so you and your husband should jsut be patient with eachother and considerate. :-) Good luck...I could give you what I have had to do if you've tried other methods. 

Name: mamaheavener | Date: Jan 31st, 2007 3:50 PM
sorry...hard to spell wth a 13 month and 2 month old sitting with you. :-) 

Name: LindsayK | Date: Feb 1st, 2007 4:50 AM
No I wouldn't really conside her "new". She'll be 4 months tomorrow. Unfortuneately this is the routine she's gotten into. I'm going to look into getting the no cry sleep solution book, I can't bare to let her cry it out. and they say it's not good for them now anyway. I would be interested in what you've tried though mamheavener. Melissa-I don't know if she's teething or not, but I don't think that's the problem. She stays happy most of the time till I finally get her down. Thanks though. 

Name: anjelsin | Date: Feb 1st, 2007 6:50 PM
My daughter was like that too. She still will only sleep in her swing. I felt bad about it but then I heard that alot of other parents let them sleep in swings. Not for lack of tring to get her in a crib. She eventually switched her sleep schedule after a few weeks and now goes to sleep around 9pm -11pm. I think that it just takes time. I did figure out when tring to put her down the nicer that I tried she would wake up and if I just set her down without treating her like china she would stay asleep. I think the real soft touches irritated her. Good luck. 

Name: Melissa | Date: Feb 2nd, 2007 3:51 AM
if it is early teething pain she might not notice it until it is time to lay down to sleep. there are too many interesting things going on during the day.

i know you said that you didn't want to do CIO, i'm glad you said that.
Dr. Sears now says that it can actually cause brain damage. " when babies cry for long periods of time(like suggested with the Freber method and others) it raises the blood pressure which releases hormones. these hormones can actually cause connections not to happen in the babies growing brain. a harvard study showed that infants who experienced persistent crying episodes were 10 times more likely to have ADHD as a child, along with poor school performance and antisocial behavior. The researchers concluded these findings may be due to the lack of responsive attitude of the parents toward their babies." this is a quote from Dr. Sears.

sorry i know you didn't ask for this info but i just wanted you to know that your instincts on not being able to stand to hear your baby cry is a good thing. i know it is hard not to get any sleep but you are doing a good thing by just loving on your baby instead of letting her cry. i wish i could say that it gets better but just when you think you get your little on into a good sleep routine something happens. in my case i had by son sleeping through the night and then he started to cut his back molars, well there goes my sleep again. i so know how you feel! 


Name: Melissa | Date: Feb 2nd, 2007 3:52 AM
sorry i wrote a book, i'm really bad at that! 

Name: LindsayK | Date: Feb 2nd, 2007 6:05 AM
Thanks so much Melissa for your info. I really appreciate it. I too, definately lean toward the Dr. Sears methods of parenting the more I read about them. And I actually saw a news clip recently about Dr. Ferber. He has actually "revised" his methods on sleep patterns, as he called it. The reporter kept trying to get him to admit that he was wrong in the past. It was pretty funny watching him keep correcting her. Anyway, now with the new research on CIO he's saying to respond to your child more often and soothe them. What a quack, he doesn't know what to say now. Thanks for everything it's so nice to have someone to talk to about this stuff. 

Name: mamaheavener | Date: Feb 2nd, 2007 5:22 PM
sorry...I've been way busy and haven't been able to login..anyways....things that I've tried: I have tried the Freber method but I revised it myself with checking on her sooner than later and so forth. But when checking and soothing her I wouldn't use words or interact a great deal. I hated the long periods of crying but sometimes that's what it took...I would sit by her room and look in on her and it took about a week for this. I wouldn't let her get histerical but I wouldn't go chraging in there either. Soem might not agree but you have to do what works and she was a stubborn little thing from the get go. Another way is being outside for a period...not sure how cold it is where you are but the fresh air helps with sleep. In the summer we would sit out on the porch swing...I know impractical during these months but a few mintues outside wouldn't hurt. I know that these seem a little vague but with the child I'm speaking about that time period is a bit of a blurr...she was the same way but I wasn't able to sleep b/c I had an older child and then on top of all tha tI was pregnant with #3. It was a a very stressful time. Does your husband ever give it a go? Sometimes someone else helps...for your own sanity as well as the baby's sleep pattern. anyways....I always was at the library looking and reading...bit of a book worm I might add. :-) I hope things start to turn around for you and your little one though...like my mom would say to me "this too shall pass". 

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