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Name: Joanne
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she is number 5 and now 18 monht sold but she will not stop nursing,...............HELP,
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Name: ; | Date: Dec 21st, 2005 4:37 AM

Name: heather | Date: Dec 28th, 2005 8:38 PM
let her cry when you refuse the tit and then try her with a bottle. slowly start giving her similar shaped nipples on sippy cups and then a regular one, if shes thristy enough, she'll drink it... she knows how to get to you and you cant let that happen 

Name: Michele | Date: Jan 22nd, 2006 12:28 AM
My second wouldn't take a bottle, but went straight to the sippy at one. Just hold her while she is drinking from the sippy...it's the closeness they want. 

Name: miranda | Date: Jan 23rd, 2006 8:35 PM
you think thats bad, my 2 year old wont get off the tit...ugh! 

Name: 3 time nursing mom | Date: Jan 24th, 2006 1:39 AM
Read "Mothering your Nursing Toddler" by Norma Jane Bumgarner.

My latest is 3 and still nursing.
A child who's nursing needs are heard will grow up knowing that all his/her needs will be met. 

Name: Deb | Date: Feb 6th, 2006 5:10 AM
My sister-in-law could not get her three year old to stop breastfeeding! So she put vinegar on her nipples. When he went to breast feed, he did not like that taste at all! Needless to say, he quit. 


Name: 3 time nursing mom | Date: Feb 6th, 2006 5:21 AM
Vinegar on the breast, that strikes me as a nasty lesson for a child. The breast for a child that age, represents love and comfort.

I would prefer to recommend saying "no" and not allowing the breast to be offered over putting a nasty taste onto something that represents such comfort to a child. If the breast is not available, the child cannot nurse. Simple as that. If the parent has difficulty with it because the child insists, then I would suspect that further discipline problems will be popping up with them down the line.

In my humble opinion, there are much better ways of weaning, especially in an older child who can understand our words.
That book I recommended above addresses such matters. 

Name: ???? | Date: Feb 6th, 2006 6:27 AM
OMG putting vinegar on your breast and then allowing you baby to suck on it.....how mean. Where's the unconditional love at? 

Name: Emily | Date: Feb 6th, 2006 3:57 PM
Whats worse the vinegar or the fact that the child is three and still breastfeeding. Come on whos in control here the mother or the three year old. That is just not right. 

Name: ?????? | Date: Feb 6th, 2006 8:31 PM
Well I personally wouldn't breast feed to such a late age either. I've heard alot about that though. I think some women take it to an extreme. But I don't know about the vinegar still. 

Name: Deb | Date: Feb 7th, 2006 2:27 AM
I agree. I would never have put vinegar on myself to get my child to stop nursing. And you are right, the child did rule the roost in more matters than this. I have nursed 4 children for as long as they wanted to and it was wonderful. But they chose to quit at about one year. They were getting what they needed from a cup and three were boys who were ready to go, go go. When my daughter wanted to quit nursing, she still wanted to be held in the nursing position, but didn't want to nurse. We did that for a long time. She's seven now, miss those days. 

Name: Elizabeth | Date: Feb 7th, 2006 2:45 AM
Breastfeeding experts do not advocate a specific age for weaning, as this is a personal decision for each mother and child. Authorities do suggest that it is best to let children wean naturally. For instance, the American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that all babies be breastfed for at least one year, or as long as mutually desirable.
In support of this recommendation, the AAP ’s statement cites a study that discusses the age of weaning among American women who practice extended breastfeeding. Weaning ages in the study extend through age 6.4
Many people are surprised to learn that experts consider 4 or 5 years to be the average age of weaning worldwide… Research by Dr. Katherine Dettwyler, anthropologist at Texas A&M University, argues that the natural weaning age for human beings falls between 2.5 and 6 years of age. An informal survey conducted by Dr. Dettwyler indicated that many more women in the United States are nursing children past infancy, and she has reports of children as old as ten years old still breastfeeding.
Many people, however, are not familiar with the idea of extended breastfeeding, since older nursing children do not nurse frequently or urgently, and most mothers nursing an older child do not do so openly in public. 

Name: 3 time nursing mom | Date: Feb 7th, 2006 5:02 AM
I agree with Elizabeth.

The United States is one of the only countries to wean its children by
their first birthday. Baby-led weaning is more the norm throughout the world then mother-led weaning. Mothers who allow their child to wean naturally are being responsive to the child’s need.

According to WHO (World Health Organization), the average age of weaning in 1992 was 4.2 years. This includes the statistics for the United States where the average age of weaning was still under a year. Obviously to balance out to make the average 4.2 years, there must be a good many mothers who wean beyond 4 years.

This is par for the course in the consideration of how we humans rank alongside of other mammals. According to the book I recommended in a previous post “Mothering Your Nursing Toddler” by Norma Jane Bumgarner, taking gestation periods, size, and age expectancy into consideration, the general rule of thumb for mammals nursing their young is equivalent in human years to be at approximately 3 to 4 years of age, with weaker young nursing longer for greater strength and health.

Fortunately though, here in the United States we are starting to get out of the ‘dark ages’ for breastfeeding which was brought on by the formula companies, and study done in 2002 claims the average age for weaning in the United States is 2.4 years of age. This is also taking into consideration those who wean their babies at the tender age of 6 months or less.

Extended nursing well beyond the second and third year is the worldwide norm. Those who wean at one year or less are in the minority. So in reality the mothers who take it to an ‘extreme’ are those who take it to the opposite extreme of weaning their children before 1 years of age. A nursing 3 year old is more common worldwide then a weaned one year old.

However, although I am aware that there are a few others here on this forum, most long term nursing mothers probably do not spend a whole lot of time on this forum. Consequently not too many postings will probably show up regarding extended nursing. I myself just happened upon this forum one day looking for information regarding anorexia as it pertained to one of my older daughter’s friends, and saw that I could share my experience in the breastfeeding section. 

Name: Anne | Date: Feb 8th, 2006 5:44 AM
I breastfed all 4 of my children until they gradually weaned themselves (except the youngest who is still nursing at 22 months) sometime between 2 1/2 yrs old to just over 4 years. Towards the end they only come for 'nanna' time once or twice a week. It's always hard when I realize they aren't coming back to the breast anymore. (My aunt told me with a smile that when they finally wean on their own, it is the first step and good practice for a mom in preparing for letting them move out on their own.)
I always liked the fact that long strong breastfeeding delayed me getting my period back which seemed to space our kids out pretty good for us. 

Name: Paula | Date: Feb 9th, 2006 7:41 PM
I have 4 children. The earliest one weaned was just 26 or 27 months. The latest, so far is just shy of her 4th birthday. I did what is called 'tandem nursing' with my first two. My youngest is almost 3 years old and still nursing.
I think it is a lot more common then we think. Mothers who nurse their children past one year don't usually do it in public because it is not a nutritional need anymore, it is more bonding or for 'owies' which is usually done in the privacy of one's home. And it's not usually the topic of conversation.
Also, maybe it could be a regional thing.
I'm in the midwest, we seem to have a pretty laid back style of living here. 

Name: lucy | Date: Feb 11th, 2006 5:27 PM
reply to amanda on 01/21.how narrow minded of you.you probably dont have children.breast feeding is the most amazing experience a mother can have with her child.i breastfed my son untill he was 23 months but at that point it was the last feed at night.it is hard to say no,but thats the only way to do it.just say no.shell be fine.im now feeding my 5 month ld daughter & will continue to do so untill ive had enough.good luck. 

Name: lucy | Date: Feb 11th, 2006 5:31 PM
im in bristol england by the way.we have a good support network for breastfeeding mums here.you poor american mummies!!! your boobs are only seen as sexual objects!!. 

Name: 3 time nursing mom | Date: Feb 14th, 2006 6:18 AM
Lucy,

Thanks so much! lol, you are very correct, and I appreciate your empathy.

It does seem sometimes like a battle.

But I breastfed my first back in 1985, and now am nursing my latest (maybe my last??) in 2006.
Thankfully, there has been vast improvements in the last 20 years.

In 1985 I had to pump manually in a bathroom stall, and coworkers were shocked and appalled that I was still nursing my 4 month old (12 weeks apparently was the appropriate weaning according to them - I ignored them all and nursed well into toddlerhood. And my college attending daughter is none the worse for it. Goodness!).

Now, over 20 years later, in 2006, many places of employment have a 'Lactation Room', and I am finding more and more mothers nursing beyond the 2nd year.

But as you can see from this forum even, we still have a way to go to 'spread the good news of breastfeeding'. lol 

Name: whitney | Date: Feb 24th, 2006 1:45 AM
i'm 19 &my daughter is 5 months old & i am going to try to wean her off the breast as soon as possible so i can get back to working!! my sister breastfed her 2 children until 6 months & said all she did was LEFT THE BABY WITH THEIR FATHER & A BOTTLE OF MILK & WHEN SHE CAME BACK BOTH CHILDREN RESPONDED THE SAME & ACCEPTED THE BOTTLE!! she said they would not take it from her what so ever! of course they might scream & cry but i guess if they are thirsty enough they will drink it :) 

Name: sam | Date: Feb 26th, 2006 1:02 AM
WHO WANTS TO CHAT 

Name: Jossie | Date: Feb 27th, 2006 3:19 AM
My daughter is my first one, and she is 13 months old. I find myself in your position. I would like some HELP. I love her a lot, and it has been a wonderful experience, but I believe it is time. I work and go to school and feel bad when she wants to nurse, and I am not home. 

Name: Ramdom Person | Date: Mar 12th, 2006 8:57 PM
My mom weaned me, and I turned out fine. No brain problems or anything. For some reason, this is reminding me of a TV show I saw where the mom didn't wean the baby, and the baby was still breastfeeding at age six. 

Name: still bf at 2 years | Date: Mar 12th, 2006 11:27 PM
lol, ramdom person,
no one claims weaning a child harms them.
as for that t.v. program...well we all know how realistic tv shows are don't we?
read what 3 time nursing mom wrote again, it's not that it's bad to wean babies before nature intended, it's just that it is so much better to do it the way nature intended. 

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