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Name: flamom
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My ex is a great dad but is moving in with his girlfriend and children. My kids will be in their home every other weekend. What do I say when the subject of living together vs. marriage comes up? It's already brewing, and frankly when there are kids involved I don't think shacking up is the answer but know my ex thinks it's fine. Thanks.
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Name: Lizzi | Date: Oct 10th, 2006 10:52 PM
Lots of people live together before marrying and many others live together without ever becomming married. Personally,i don't think it's that big of a deal,especially this day and age. Look at the divorce rates these days. I almost think people are better off just living together without being married. As long as the kids are loved and taken care of and in a good happy home,then marriage really isn't that big of a deal. My husband and I would love each other the same if we weren't marrried but still living together. I think marriage is great for couples who want it ,but for those who just want to live together,i think that's fine too. 

Name: momo | Date: Oct 11th, 2006 3:15 AM
I don't think that you you should put so much focus on that but more on is it a safe and loving environment? While people have different views and morals...I don't think living together these days is far from the most immoral...Besides like lizzi said it to many people are married today and not doing well...mabe more people should move in with each other...Most kids don't even care about the marriage part...specially if their young...and probably might never even ask....You shouldn't let it brew unless there is problems....Most people don't look at it as shacking up....but that they deeply care about each other... 

Name: Layne | Date: Oct 11th, 2006 1:17 PM
I lived with my husband for 1 year before we married. But now that im older I wish I wouldnt of. because it sent the wrong message to my oldest boy now he doesnt want to marry and has trouble with comitment. 

Name: flamom | Date: Oct 14th, 2006 9:56 AM
Good point Layne. I hear this often. Many of us are just "accepting" living together is fine but honestly it's not the same commitment as marriage. Yes, I agree there's a lot of divorce-sad. I want my children to believe in the state of marriage. Luckily they see my parents, and their uncle married and lots of friends in neighborhood still married. There's hope! I agree, think many 20-30's are scared to death of marriage because they saw their family split or they feel it's "easy" to just live together. Marriage is , hard and work to make it last.
Appreciate your insite. There's still "a few of us" that believe in marriage. 

Name: mari007 | Date: Oct 15th, 2006 3:06 PM
From: Mari Johnson
Email Address: [email protected]

Peace be with you,

My name is Mrs. Mari Johnson., a nationality of Morocco . I am married
to
late Mr.david johnson who worked with Moroco embassy in Ivory Coast for
nine years before he died in the year Octorber 2003. We were married
for
twenty years with a child. He died after a the illness that lasted for
long four days. Before his death we were both born again Christians.
When
my late husband was alive we deposited the sum of ($9.5 Million U.S.
Dollars) with one of good security company here in Cote d'Ivoire.
Presently, this money is still with the security company. Recently my
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my
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I want a person or church that will use this fund to churches,
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that
the house of God is maintained. The Bible made us to understand that
blessed is the hand that giveth. I took this decision because I have a
child that will inherit this money but my son can not carryout this
work
only because i and my late husband decide to use some of the money to
work
for God and live some for our son to have a better live.our son is just
17yearold now and been grow up in africa, he have low manterity and my
husbandīs relatives are not Christians and I donīt want my family hard
earned money to be misused by unbelievers. I donīt want a situation
where
this money will be used in an ungodly manner. Hence the reason for
taking
this bold decision. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am
going
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says that the lord will fight my case and I shall hold my peace.

I want your telephone communication in this transaction because of my
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church
to always pray for me because the lord is my shepherd. My happiness is
that I live a life of a worthy Christian. Whoever that wants to serve
the
Lord must serve him in spirit and truth. Please always be prayerful all
through your life.

Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for a church or
Christian individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you
will
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blessed. email: [email protected]

Mrs Mari Johnson 

Name: Lizzi | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 7:08 PM
I believe in marriage for sure but I don't think it's a sin not to marry and only live together. 


Name: flamom | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 10:47 PM
Lizzi, you're right. We lived together 1.5 yrs before marrying. But when kids are in the picture it's a whole new game. I heard on the radio that marriage may be obsolete in 20-30 yrs. With so much divorce not encouraging. Too bad for my children and daughter. 

Name: Lizzi | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 9:53 PM
Look at all these stars that marry and divorce every other week,now that's really insane! I think people should be allowed to marry twice in a lifetime! I think everyone should be given 1 "mistake" marriage and be able to marry a second time. The only exception to that should be if their second spouse dies! 

Name: momto3stepto2 | Date: Oct 21st, 2006 2:14 AM
You should stick with your gut feeling and bring the kids up with your values. Remember, if you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. I wouldn't necessarily badmouth your ex but I would discuss with the children that what daddy is doing is not right. When they are older, they will respect you for doing the right thing. 

Name: flamom | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 8:32 AM
Thanks for the encouragement Momto3. I think my 10 yr old already understands some of the "new situation". A friend has handled ex and "many girlfriends" and she's re-married. Her 14 & 16 yr old sons now see the light with their father. She stuck with values, church and marriage and it's working. take care. 

Name: Texas_Mom | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 3:18 PM
Flamom:
How the ex lives his life isn't for you to judge, nor is how you live to be judged by him. None of us have the right to judge anyone for their living arrangements, sexual preference, religion, hair color, or choice of clothes. I would strongly suggest that you hold your tongue on the issue. Maybe explain to the kids that you can't say whether the living arrangements are good or bad. Explain to them that there is only one being that will be able to judge him or any of us. If that is what you believe. He's not wrong in his choices, as long as the kids are well taken care of and not neglected. Neither of you are right or wrong, live and let live without being judgmental. Let the kids come to their own conclusions about what is right or wrong. Afterall, whether you're shacking up or married, it all depends on what's in your heart and what your intentions are. Good luck to you. 

Name: flamom | Date: Oct 26th, 2006 9:44 PM
I may be the last dinosaur that believes in not living together when children are involved, and I feel good about it.

Thank you for your response, like the Dixie Chic's said I'm Oprah "free speech". 

Name: Layne | Date: Oct 27th, 2006 1:56 AM
I havent posted here in a while how are you ladies. flamom you have a strong core and I admire that. 

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