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If you've never homeschooled or been homeschooled i dont think its right for you to say oh homeschooling kids have learning problems and such and they arent getting social interaction because you dont know. So you know someone who was homeschooled and they had problems that doesnt mean everyone has problems homeschooling, I think its a heck of a lot better than dealing with the stupid unorganized public schools, my daughter hated public school, the teachers dont care, I know it depends on the public school and the teacher but my daughter has more friends and better grades with the homeschool program she's in, its one of the top programs in the state. Plus in when my daughter was at school she had health problems and the teachers wouldnt give her any work to do at all plus the stupid principal got arrested for stealing stuff after he preaches to the kids about how to be good students. So i dont think homeschooling is bad at all I think its whatever works for your child. There are kids of all walks of life in homeschool, kids with illness,learning problems, kids who are accelerated past their grade, kids who travel with family, there are so many reasons people choose to homeschool and if it works it works. My daughter is in a music academy plus this homeschool and she's ahead of her grade level. I guess it depends on what homeschool program you're in but this charter school program doesnt take unserious applicants. ↓
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| Name: Gypsy | Date: Aug 4th, 2005 11:27 PM |
I see that you have issues with free speach. Good luck working that one out for your self.
Your reasons for liking homeschooling are of no greater value or lesser value than the post I put up that I belive you are responding to!
Homeschooling children never comes to any good.
Teaching is a profession and amateur parents who have no training should not risk there childrens futures by dabbling in a profession they have no knowledge of. ↑ |
| Name: kc | Date: Aug 9th, 2005 7:24 AM |
| Who's to say that i was even talking about you, you obvious have more issues with free speech than i do. Have you ever homeschooled a kid ..Im guessing not,Just cause ppl "know" ppl who were homeschooled doesnt mean anything, I know kids who were homeschooled who are lawyers and fire fighters Dont talk about something you dont understand,its quite obvious to me you dont have the know how to homeschool a child anyway because you seem to think you know everything. ↑ |
| Name: seth | Date: Sep 8th, 2005 12:19 PM |
| Name: Carter | Date: Sep 10th, 2005 1:58 AM |
| Gypsy~ You have jumped into a subject that you obviously know little if anything about. Homeschooling children never come to any good? What a small and uneducated mind! This is really not even worth a response......I've got to go prepare lessons. ↑ |
| Name: ?? | Date: Oct 6th, 2005 9:51 PM |
| It sounds like you don't homeschool your child though. You stated she is in a "charter school program that does not take unserious applicants". So you are teaching her. I think that is different. I think there are good programs out there for homeschooling and there are good parents out there who home school. I also think there are good public schools out there and it depends on the parents and the school. I do think, not all, but some home schooled children do not get the social interaction that they should get. I have met some that were very imature for their age. But it has gotten better and there are more options now than there was in the past. But I agree with others that say, we as parents are not teachers, teachers have to have degrees to teach who are we to teach every subject. I have a BS in accounting and am a controller but there is no way I could teach my son or daughter geometry, algebra, etc.... ↑ |
| Name: Gypsy | Date: Oct 10th, 2005 5:46 AM |
kc who died and made you GOD! If your just posting such defencive twaddle then I dought you belive your own words.
I want everyone with a opnion to post it.
Carter shame on you for insulting Gypsy, the saying it takes one to know one comes to mind. Are you a small HS mind? Telling statement there.
Who are you to tell me what I know??!! ↑ |
| Name: kc | Date: Oct 13th, 2005 12:18 AM |
| well I really honestly dont care what you think because I was just stating an opinion myself and you took it personally so just get over it ↑ |
| Name: Gypsy | Date: Oct 14th, 2005 3:40 PM |
If you need to post you opnions then get a blog this is a fourm so people respond that is how it works!!!
Get a Clue! ↑ |
| Name: bigdaddy | Date: Oct 15th, 2005 7:27 AM |
We are all in the same boat--we want the best for our children. In the USA, we have options for our kids that include public schools, "privatized schools,' private schools, parochial schools, home schooling, charter schools, and perhaps others. I am a public school counselor and professional public education advocate (this does not mean that I defend public schools--it means that I SUPPORT them and do what I can for the kids and families they serve). I also recognize that every family is different, every child is different, and even schools within each of the various alternatives are different. Some kids will thrive in some situations, some will thrive in many, some will fail no matter what (Every child CAN learn in an absolutely perfect world--I suspect few would claim that their school alternative is absolutely perfect for every child).
It would help if more of us would recognize that supporting public schools is important to maintaining educated citizens--a democracy can fail if it's voters have not been equipped to tell fact from fiction. Most families either choose public schools or do not have the luxury of providing alternative opportunities for their children (much less arguing bitterly about it). Having said that, there is obviously a percentage of families that have the ability to take advantage of one or more of the alternatives, including homeschooling.
You know what? More power to you. I only wish you and your children the best. Just please NEVER forget the majority who don't have the opportunities that you and your children have. Maybe your family can even figure out some way to help--make it a part of your community involvement--be creative.
For the record, a non-family benefactor sponsored me through an exclusive (ie. expensive) private school but after becoming a private school teacher I switched voluntarily to work with public school students and families without regret.
I look forward to meeting your kids when they become adults. ↑ |
| Name: kc | Date: Oct 16th, 2005 8:07 AM |
| well first of gypsy you're the one who needs to get a blog because you think that you're not posting an opinion you get so harshed because people disagree with you ↑ |
| Name: Cake | Date: Oct 16th, 2005 6:56 PM |
It is sad to see how angry homeschooling parents get when the truth is typed out right in front of them. Any child schooled in a home with that much anger would not be worth meeting as a grown up like Big Daddy suggested.
KC what people think of your choice does not change the fact that you made that choice the angrier you get the more people will question you motivations to make that choice.
Both of you need blogs and a chance to cool off too. ↑ |
| Name: karen | Date: Oct 16th, 2005 7:42 PM |
| I think KC and Gypsy both need to back off, and Cake you're starting something else with everyone by saying It is sad to see how angry homeschooling parents get when the truth is typed out right in front of them. This is all from know it all public school parents who think that every child learns better in public school. There is nothing I hate more than people thinking they know whats best for every child. A lot of homeschooled kids who are doing bad in homeschool was because they weren't doing good in public school. IT depends on the student. and not all public schools are the best for kids, There are horrible homeschools and There are horrible public schools, Times have changed if you've been to public school you'd realize the amount of drugs and drinking and teen problems going on thats why most of the smarter kids leave public school. It depends on the kid and it depends on the school its as simple as that. They both have advantages and disadvantages. I tend to agree with KC though because that wasnt directed at you Gypsy and cake if KC is so angry why did gypsy write back arguing about it instead of just dropping the subject. ↑ |
| Name: Travis Corn | Date: Nov 9th, 2005 9:57 PM |
| I just started homeschooling all three of my children and it is wonderful. It is amazing how much information kids can soak up when they are having fun at the same time. And as far as socialization goes they are getting more of that now also. How much socialization can your child get in public schools. The children are not allowed to speak with each other unless it is lunch time or recess and when they get home they have so much homework they barely get time to socialize with the other kids in the neighborhood. Now my kids are completely finished with there school work and can enjoy their afternoons outside instead of inside doing homework. So Gypsy your comment about homeschooling children never comes out to any good can be fully disproved in my household. My kids are so much happier being homeschooled. The great thing about homeschooling is that if I give my children a test on any subject and they do poorly on it I can back up and review the lesson making sure that I do not move on until they fully understand the lesson. Now in public schools the class would have moved on and that child would have never fully understood the material. Also if it happened to be building block material then the child will run into problems down the road. If parents are not capable of teaching their children then why do homeschoolers constantly test higher than public school students? ↑ |
| Name: Ben | Date: Nov 9th, 2005 10:11 PM |
| I agree Travis... I'm homeschooled I hated public school.. im still friends with a lot of the kids at highschool and they hate it but they can't do anything about it, I love my school it's actually kind of cool when your friends parents call you and ask if you can help your friend with a subject you already went through...im getting the best grades homeschooled than I ever got in public school, and school isn't the only place to be social at.. I go to a youth group with about 45 other people my age and then church and the sports team im on. There are plenty of places to be social at besides school... I realized how thankful I was too because of the shooting at the Highschool in TN, You dont think that could be your public school but it could be anyones and it's horrible ↑ |
| Name: Patti | Date: Dec 13th, 2005 2:30 AM |
| I'm a homeschooling mom, and my son and I are having the time of our lives! In public schools, I flunked algebra 3 times. He's just now starting algebra, so we're learning it TOGETHER! He is so far from anti-social, it's not funny! He has plenty of social activities to keep him busy ( he chose them, and if he decides it's too much, we'll stop one ) He doesn't have homework to bog him down, in the afternoons and evenings, so he's very active with his public school friends after school. He takes other classes during day time hours, that most kids have to wait until after school to do ( guitar lessons, will be starting tae kwan do next month, etc ) Our homeschool group has AT LEAST one group activity planned per week, and we take field trips galore.... whenever we want. We live in Alabama, I sent him to stay with my neice in MD for 10 days..... he went to the Washington Monument, White House and Lincoln Memorial, not to mention the Smithsonian!! We're going to FL next month, to go have lunch with an astronaut at the JFK Space Center. There are so many benefits to homeschooling. You aren't tethered to home, and there are so many learning opportunities out there that public school kids can't do. ↑ |
| Name: why homeschool | Date: Feb 17th, 2006 5:23 PM |
Our schools have ceased to teach children how to think and instead teach them what to think.
It is becoming increasingly more difficult for parents, especially conservative, religious parents, to safeguard the hearts and minds of their children enrolled in the public school system.
Young children are being told that they should embrace thoughts and ideas that directly conflict with what they are taught in the home.
Public schools are no longer partnering with parents in the goal of teaching children concrete academics.
Instead, they are becoming institutions that generally consider parents as the adversary.
Conservative parents stand in the way of children becoming leftist soldiers, a new generation of activists who can carry the banner of ultra-liberal causes.
http://www.capitolresource.org ↑ |
| Name: lili | Date: Feb 20th, 2006 9:36 PM |
"I flunked algebra 3 times. He's just now starting algebra, so we're learning it TOGETHER!"
Would you want your child if he were in a school setting (God frobid!) to be taught algebra or any subject by a teacher thathad failed it?? I sure as heck would not. For some strange reason you a grown up sound proud that you are learning with your child. ↑ |
| Name: X | Date: Feb 22nd, 2006 5:03 PM |
| Here is the problem I find with the school systems: Children are no longer taught how to think critically, it’s more of a plug and play. Rather than teach a child why a formula works, they are taught how to fill in the blanks. I was fortunate enough to go through private school, so I really can’t say too much about actually being home schooled or going to public school, but through high school and college I made a living by tutoring. I tutored every child imaginable, private schooled, public schooled, home schooled, developmentally disabled, and straight A students. Without a doubt, the hardest time I ever had, was tutoring Home schooled kids. I know it seems odd, that a home schooled child should be taught by the parents, or by a private teacher, I guess a loving parent would want that extra edge of having a tutor for their child. Unfortunately I found that these most of these children were so far behind, mentally and emotionally, that often times the most basic of ideas would barely be comprehendible. Granted, there are very bright home schooled children (as in all schooling) but the social ineptness of the home schooled is astounding. Parents may have a great relationship with their children, but kids need to be able to interact with others of the same age, otherwise they will eventually treat others as the parents treated them in that the children feel they have control over others. This is not speculation, this is first hand account. Unless the exact opposite happens and the child rebels against the parents and all authority in an attempt to forge their own ideas and opinions. Unfortunately I really can't tell which is the best way to teach a child, but I have enough faith and understanding of the structured school system to say that my daughter will never be home schooled. ↑ |
| Name: Patti | Date: Feb 23rd, 2006 3:28 PM |
yes, I AM proud that I am learning something WITH my child! you learn something new every day, and if you're afraid to admit that you can't do something, because you don't know how, than you must think you "know it all" and I KNOW I don't! My child knows that I don't, and it just goes to show that PS will pass anyone, even if they don't "make the grade" and aren't learning what they need to know!
Life is a continuous learning experience, for young and old alike. If I can learn something new, while helping my child learn, then more power to me! ↑ |
| Name: Debi | Date: Feb 25th, 2006 10:33 PM |
To Patti!
Yes! It is fun to learn with our kids! I'm mostly learning Science and History. How many parents these days can help their kids with their homework? Well, we can. Because we are learning it with our kids and not oblivious to what our kids are learning in school. There are so many curriculums out there that make it so easy to teach anything to our kids. The teacher's editions explain step by step how to do it. I never thought it would be so easy and fun! I am the proud parent who can say, I taught my kids how to read and write, multiply and divide!! And my kids think I am smart because everything they are learning is from me, mom, not a teacher. Good job Patti! You go girl! ↑ |
| Name: lili | Date: Feb 26th, 2006 3:01 AM |
"yes, I AM proud that I am learning something WITH my child! "
There is nothing wrong with learning new things but not at the cost of your child's education. You can not teach what you do not know. Would you honestly be okay with a teacher in a school setting who was learning along wiht your child, rather than teaching your child? I amnot against homeschooling, but I believe if you are going to homeschool you should put the effort of attaining the knoweldge and skills required to do it right or else really what is the point? If you are dedicated to your child's learning somuch so that you want them to have better than a public school can offer than why wouldn't you take some teaching classes. This is not for the parents who only homeschool so they can keep their children from being exposed to other religions and/or cultures, beacuse obviously there reasons are not all about education. ↑ |
| Name: Kandy | Date: Feb 26th, 2006 11:59 PM |
| well it's not like most public schooled teachers teach...because 90% of them don't teach worth crap they just say here is the assignment and this is this....Please... I mean who helps you with your homework at your house?? Your parents... this is stuff most parents already know they just needs some freshing up... ↑ |
| Name: Angie | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 10:32 PM |
| Name: lili | Date: Mar 2nd, 2006 10:57 PM |
| kandy that is not true, most teachers do teach. Why do you think that a higher degree is required other than just a BA if you want to teach? Why do you think certification is required? They are taught skills required of their position. Personally I had many great teachers. My parents did not help me with my homework. I know a great many kids whose parents can not help them with their homework because they either do not speak English well enough or just do not know the material themselves. Bottom line parents are not experienced educators, they are parents and that in itself is a full time job. If a parent decides to home school, they should fulfill all the requirements that teachers do so as to ensure their child is receiving the best education possible. I mean would you just buy a book and change the breaks on your car or take it to a certified mechanic? Aren't your kids worth more to you than your car? ↑ |
| Name: lisa | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 7:03 AM |
| actually Kandy is right ive never been in a class since elementary nor has anyone I've known been in a class where Teachers do their jobs it's so pathetic.. besides if Homeschooled parents didnt know the material why are homeschoolers 80 times smarter than public schooled kids?? and dont pull that crap about all they do is school it's bullcrap ↑ |
| Name: baby girl | Date: Mar 3rd, 2006 3:07 PM |
| well i'm preganant and i can't move around like i used to so i feel homeschooling is the best thing 4 me 2 do ya heard. ↑ |
| Name: lili | Date: Mar 4th, 2006 8:17 PM |
| " homeschoolers 80 times smarter than public schooled kids?? " Really Lisa please tell me where you are getiing these statistics. Also, can you name somoene who was home schooled and is as successful as General Colin Powell who was educated in the New York City public schools. ↑ |
| Name: Patti | Date: Mar 5th, 2006 1:30 AM |
| Lili, if you want names of famous SMART people that were homeschooled, look at the thread called " a challenge" and you'll see a whole slew of them! ↑ |
| Name: Kimmy | Date: Mar 5th, 2006 7:17 PM |
| most public schooled kids are dumb as dirt... sorry to say but its true because they're locked in learning what they have to. Homeschooled kids have so much more opportunity to learn different things and at their speed unlike public schooled kids..plus all public schooled kids are drug addicts who fried their brains anyway. Lili please tell me where you get the information that all public schooled teachers TEACH .. heh yeah right all public schooled teachers do is pick favorites.. homeschoolers have so much more opportunities than public schooled kids it's not even fun the public schooled kids are the sheltered ones...Teachers really don't do anything but read fromt he book anyway any idiot can do that and just because your parents never helped you with your homework doesn't mean that most ppl don't get help and this is AMERICA so most parents nowa days have to speak english. ↑ |
| Name: lili | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 1:41 AM |
| Kimmy you sound like you live in a bubble with your "this is AMERICA so most parents nowa days have to speak english " statement. Not sure if you live in some midwestern town or southern hole, but the rest of civilization is aware that America is a multicultural nation. Homeschooling is fine if a parent is educated and trained to do it, otherwise it is a detrement to the child's future. If anyone could teach it would not require a higher degree like an MA or certification. I am not saying public schools are perfect, far from it, but there are other choices and homeschooling unless you are trained is not one of them. ↑ |
| Name: bunny | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 5:57 AM |
| lili exactly what experience do you have in homeschooling.. you should practice what you preach. Most kids are way smarter in homeschooling because teachers clearly don't do their job. I went from school to school including private schools they just don't give a crap. My parents are better to understand than any idiot teacher plus some kids are just more comfortable going to their parents.. and it's not like you can't get a tutor.. you are living in the dark ages ↑ |
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