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Name: Hiddy
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Dear Terri/Susan/Adopt A Dog and everyone else who just cant live without their pitbulls,

Terri, I think you have a personality disorder. If not, why the need to use so many names?
Oh thats right, you need to have SOMEONE to back up your lame, uneducated, shallow minded theories.

I dont care if everyone on here gets along, I can see you are all up each others butts so far here, its a wonder you can see the light of day.

However, I have a right to be here stating my dislike for Pitbulls. To attack my mothering abilities is just so underhanded and cruel, especially when you do not know ANYTHING about the way I raise my child. But then again, I expect that from a Pitbull owner.

Terri/Susan...whatever your name is, I know your the one doing it, you dont even have a child, your dog is as close as you have got and because I am anti-pitbull you think you have the right to attack MY mothering skills.

Sweetie, your dog is a dog, its an animal, its not a baby. Your 21, your a baby. You dont have a clue about parenting, so stop attacking someone you have spent a little time on a message board with about their parenting skills. It just goes to show, how low you will go.

I on the other hand, know all about Pitbulls. You only have to google "Pitbull attacks" to see the damage they have caused and lets see just how much you love pitbulls after you have a child.

I can also post as many new threads as I like. I thought thats what that function was there for. Silly me, it must just be for decoration.

For goodness sakes, grow up. Im not going to get into this "Ohhh, we all have an opinion and are entitled to it" CRAP. Pitbulls are dangerous, aggressive dogs, its a fact! You people are in denial about the breed. Its not a matter of WHO has what opinion.

I also have to wonder just WHY there are so many women on here who have pitbulls. This is my theory!
- You found this website after a search because you are having problems with your pitbull around your children
- You are expecting a child and are SCARED about having a baby around a Pitbull (so you should be)

Now you have found someone on here who is against it, and you dont want to accept the fact that you may have to get rid of your dog.

Pretty good for someone with a mail order diploma hey?
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Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:23 PM
*LOL*

Let them remove their genes from the pool by keeping these mutts. One less sounds good to me! 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:25 PM
Attacking mothering skills?

Anyone with a brain knows you shouldnt keep a dog like a Pitbull around children. 

Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:30 PM
But Hiddy, have you considered that this might be for the best? People with stupid genes weaken the gene pool - they remove themselves by a process of reverse natural selection - ie - stupid people die sooner than intelligent ones - the same, sadly goes for their kids.

Perhaps their instincts are telling them that they must keep one of these dogs. Stupid genes self-destruct. These dogs could actually be useful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:37 PM
lmao....no, hey I never considered that! 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:39 PM
WOW!! Your absolutely right. Apparently most of us in here have the stupid people gene because we keep debating and standing up for those dogs that are not even remotely what you are describing or claim to have read. The intellegent thing would be just to stop...

So all of you who have the stupid people gene just don't bother defending your dogs you know how good they are with your child and what a bunch of babies they are. You are the only ones who know whether or not your dog acts aggressive or have every acted aggressive towards you or any other person. Eventually those who KNOW EVERYTHING and are EXPERTS in this field will just silence out because no one will be there for them to argue with. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:42 PM
Re: The comment about updating my course

I didnt do a course in computer technology or something that needs to be updated. I did a course in animal behaviour for goodness sakes....The info isnt likely to change, at least for next 500 years or so.

Do any of you have a brain? 


Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:42 PM
Well, perhaps it's another way of looking at the problem then? If these people are so stupid that they can't accept that animal behaviour is based upon instinct then they deserve to be eaten by their pooch.
Go to www.DarwinAwards.com and see some of the stupid ways in which the 'Cerebrally Challenged' have despatched themselves!
Hey, after all, it's one less welfare payout each time one of these crappy canines decides to show its' owner who's boss!
*LOL* 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:43 PM
EthansMom,

What planet are you from? 

Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:44 PM
Atomic Snowflake, Good thing you came along poor Hiddy had no friends. I mean that in the kindest way! 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:46 PM
I would ask you the same question except I was brought up to feel sorry for people like you who can only see one side of the story and not consider someone else. 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:59 PM
No one is saying that the pitbull does not carry an aggressive gene but so do alot of other dogs and yet these other dogs are okay to have as pets. There are dogs who are not known to act on their aggression turning on their owners for no reason but yet this breed is still okay to have around children. I have never dealt with or come in contact with one of those so called dangerous pitbulls you are describing. So I am sorry but at this point in time I have to say that the study done on these dogs are not 100% accurate. If it was my sisters dogs wouldn't act as he does around my nephew of my son. And the same goes for my cousins dog. I have three other cousins who have Rotweilers and they are too are just a bunch of babies. I do not believe in basing my opinion on someone else opinion. My opinion on these dogs are base on personal experience not by some study. And you say I have the stupid person gene,I could careless. You do not need to like what I have to say or even like me. Because it's no lost to me, we were never friends to begin with. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:04 PM
There is not to sides to this story
This subject is not debatable. There are only facts.
Its like your debating the drug issue or something, and you are saying, "Well its okay to take drugs if you only do it once and a while to relax you"

Do you get the point? Pitbulls are dangerous, and so are drugs
drugs kill people, and so do pitbulls.

Geeze, your like children, you need analogies to help you understand...lol 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:17 PM
WHAT? See again this is where you are wrong because apparently this subject is debatable. Can you explain to me why my sister dog is not the dog that you trying to tell me is so dangerous? Can you explain to those people who own these dogs why there dog has not turned on them? Can you explain this. Because according to you how these dogs should not be acting like this. According to your facts

And your wrong because there is ALWAYS two side to every topic. If there wasn't every article that was ever written would all be the same no matter what the topic. And you being so intellegent should know this. We wouldn't have a library full of books several on the same topic if there wasn't another side because we would only need one because no one would ever go back and do another study because why should they. Why do we continue to go back and studies these dogs if we continue to think that they are dangerous? Why do we continue to do anything if we already know the answers? You know why because no one is an EXPERT in anything. And the more we research and study the more information we find and on occassion we find new evidence that makes what has been said in the pass no longer true.

You say that these dogs are dangerous great. This is your OPINION. Others don't agree this is their opinion which makes this a debatable topic. You just want to believe that you are 100% accurate and because we do not all agree we are all stupid closeminded morans. You not being open to the fact that there might just be some pitbulls that are nothing like what is described is being close minded. 

Name: Terri | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:21 PM
Hiddy I didn't tell you how to raise your child. Just because people aren't agreeing with you, doesn't mean I'm making up other names.

If this is not debatable then why are only 2 people not for pitbulls and there are like 15 that are? 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:29 PM
Didnt you read my theory?

This is why I think you are on this site Terri. You are married but you dont have children yet, thats a fact, so, what are you doing, on a baby site in the pets section? Here is my theory.

You are here because you are thinking of having children and you need support and advice on having Pitbulls and having a baby.

If this is not true- Then why are you on a baby site, under the pet section, and not on a Pitbull site?

I think you are worried about the prospect of having a baby around Pitbulls, you want to sing your praises for them because you dont want to believe that this is going to be a REAL issue for you once you have children. Understandibly so. 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:31 PM
TERRI-

It's because 15 out of 17 people in here have the Stupid People Gene. Oh wait, apparently I don't have the stupid people gene because I manage to realize that there are two sides to this topic wear as Hiddy hasn't. Who in the hell has she been debating with all this time? And why does she continue to respond if this isn't a debatable topic? 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:39 PM
And before you ask......

Why am I here? Because my 15 year old Shetland Sheepdog died not long ago and I want to get another dog but I was thinking about another breed. I dont know which yet. But I have a child and want a breed that will suit our family. I really want an Italian greyhound but they look too fragile. Although my daughter respects animals and would never intentionally pull a dogs ears or sit on a dog, Im worried about them running around together and her accidentally tripping over the dog and breaking its bones.

Im keeping an eye on the chat here, hoping to see some reason one breed might be better than another, but upon coming to this site, I noticed a few women on here had posted who are pregnant and were concerned about keeping Pitbulls around children. There is even one thread in which a woman states she was attacked by her own Pitbull and now is scared to death of it. I made a comment about Pitbulls not being a good breed to have around ANY child. Then I got attacked by the Pitbull owners...lol....so here we are. 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:44 PM
Again not a pitbull owners. I actually own a Maltese Bichion mix. Every person in my household has allergies so when picking out a dog we had to take that in consideration.

When you bring a new baby in the house where you have a dog it can be scarey no matter what breed that dog might be because that dog could turn on the baby or even you. Doesn't matter if it's an aggressive dog or a non-aggressive dog the outcome can all be the same. 

Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:46 PM
Hiddy I am trully sorry about your dog! We may have a diffrence in thoughts about a certaint dog breed, but I do know how hart felt it is to lose a long time friend. 

Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:49 PM
Oh ya..... Hiddy I'll do one better, I got attacked by my bird today! I would have rather of been attacked by you ladies lol. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:49 PM
crap EthansMom,

The difference between having a Pitbull and having another breed is not the aggression, its the ability of Pitbulls to tear your child apart, verses the physical capabilty of another breed.

Yes, a maltese terrier might be aggressive and might bite your child, but the likelyhood of a child surviving an attack from a maltese terrier, verses a Pitbull is much much higher. 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:52 PM
But the point that is trying to be made here is not that these dogs are not aggressive we are all aware of this. The point that we are trying to make is that they are not all bad dogs they are just getting a bad rap because so many of them are or have been beaten to encourage there aggressiness to come out. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 11:57 PM
YES dear, but some maltese terriers are probably mistreated and teased to the point that they become savage. Its the capablity to inflict serious injury on the victim.

Go look up the law of averages or something. Sheesh, this is 7th grade maths

Thank god you are not some expert in some field EthansMom, you would drive everyone nuts 

Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:02 AM
Ethansmom, LOL!!!! 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:04 AM
so if a maltese is a savage little dog its because it was teased and or abused and that rules out all possibilities it may just have been ill bred? BUT if you have a terrier that is mean, that dose come from a abused home and the owners did beat it in puplic its because of its breed? Gosh, I hope you never teach any vet classes...... 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:06 AM
And another thing you don't have to put people down or be mean to get your point across because yeah people are going to be defensive and by rights they should be. Once you start name calling it takes this conversation beyond a debate it become a fight. And once you turn it into a fight I can guarentee that you won't get anywhere because you've already lost. A debate doesn't make you wrong and it doesn't make me wrong. A debate is used to state both sides of the subject and in the end maybe both sides will learn something they didn't know before. In some case a debate might go as far as changing someone opinion about the topic.

Again no one is saying that you are completely wrong. We just are trying to get you to hear our side without you coming back and calling us idiots, morans or even close minded. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:06 AM
I didnt say that stupid

Im sure some Maltese Terriers have genes that carry an aggression trait too 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:08 AM
As I said EthansMom there is no debate. Pitbulls are aggressive dangerous animals that have the capabilites to inflict serious damage, its a fact.

No need to debate about that 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:09 AM
And I called candy stupid, because she is, thats a fact too 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:16 AM
I dont think anyone here is debateing weither or not a pit bull can inflict serious damage, I beleive what people here are saying is that not all pit bulls are that way and that all breeds of dogs can inflict damage. There is NO SAFE BREED OF DOG.

If you were calling me stupid, thats ok,once a person starts name calling, a adult that is suposed to be a professional, it just means that they are running out of wind and room to talk. I beleive that you have allready gone threw over and over agian the "books" you have found your info in but yet everyone here, allthough repeating alot that has allready been said to streatch their point, keeps comming up with new facts and personal oppions and can and or are backed up. Name calling really should stay in the play yard. 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:17 AM
Hiddy,
your rite, I am stupid for reading the bull crap that you are posting 

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