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Name: Hiddy
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1 Pomeranian kills a baby, that was left alone with the baby I might add, and its an issue with you people?

lmao, how much more in denial can you get. Instead of talking about that 1 pomeranian, why dont you talk about the 284 attacks on people, by Pitbulls, in New York city alone, and the 30 deaths, nation wide, which included mainly children?

Attacks where the Pitbulls had to be pried off their victims with crow bars and metal rods, because they wouldnt let go.
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Name: kitana | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 11:56 AM
What the funny part about the number you stated of 284 pit bull attacks is that over 80% of the general population can not tell the difference between a true APBT and over 30 different breeds that are NOT APBT.

Let's not also forget about mixed breeds as well.

Hell, on more than one occasion, I have personally witnessed a chocolate lab (Am bred, nor Brittish or English) being called a pitbull. This was a GrCh, purebred papered labrador, lol.

Any dog that has a med/lg build, with a stocky figure, squarish head is refered to as a pit bull.

General society are idiots. They can not identify breeds at all, unless they are breeds like poodles, huskies, dobermans, etc... Hell most people can not tell the difference between different breeds of spainels such as springers and english.

Misidentification is the reason for such high numbers like you quoted. 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:00 PM
according to the 1993 austrailian medical publishing company the following are the frequencies of dog attacks by breed, queen elizabeth hospital 90-93

german shepherd, no. of dog attacks 39, % of all attacks 25.3%,

bull terrier, no. of dog attacks 21, % of all attacks 13.6%

blue/red heeler, no. of dog attacks 21, % of all attacks 13.6%

doberman, no. of dog attacks 18, % of all attacks 11.7%

rottweiler, no of dog attacks 14, %of all attacks 9.1%

total no. of dog attacks 113, % of all dog attacks73.3%

assorted terriers, no. of dog attacks 10, % of all attacks 6.5%
collie, no. of dog attacks 6, % of all dog attacks 3.9%
labrador, no. of dog attacks 5, % of all attacks 3.3%
mongrel, no. of dog attacks 4, % of all attacks 2.6%
greyhound, no. of dog attacks 2, % of all attacks 1.3%
cocker spaniel, no. of dog attacks 2, % of all attacks 1.3%
kelpie, no. of dog attacks 2, % of all attacks1.3%
others, no. of dog attacks 10, % of all attacks 6.5%

In 1996 the top breeds of dogs that were reported to bite were the
shepard, bull terrier, heeler, rottwiler,

In 1991 the top breed fo dog to attack was teh german shepard

in 1997 the top breeds to attack were the german shepard, pit bull
terrier, blue/red heller, doberman and rottwiler

It seems to be the blue/red heeler has been a big problem over there so mabe since it is so prone
to attack/bite steps should be tooken to controll the breed. jmo 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:09 PM
Summary

The number of dog bite fatalities has remained fairly constant over time in the United States. In the twenty-year period between 1979 and 1998, the number of fatal dog attacks ranged from 5 to 17 per year.8

Between 1979 and 1998, severe dog bites resulted in at least 332 confirmed human deaths. Twenty-five breeds of dogs were involved. Seventy percent of dog bite fatality victims were children.

Although rottweilers and pit bulls were responsible for 60% of the 1997-1998 dog bite fatalities, these breeds have accounted for far fewer fatalities in past years.8

The proportion of deaths attributable to pit bulls has varied over time from 20% in 1979-1980, to 62% in 1987-1988, and down again to 22% in 1997-1998.10,8

Dog bite fatalities are reported to occur less often in other developed countries such as Australia and Canada.



The number of dog bite fatalities has remained fairly constant over time in the United States. In the twenty-year period between 1979 and 1998, the number of fatal dog attacks ranged from 5 to 17 per year.8 In this period, severe dog bites resulted in at least 332 confirmed human deaths. Breed specific data was available for just 238 of these 332 cases, and revealed that 25 breeds of dogs were involved and that most dog bite fatality victims were children. Age specific data from 1997 and 1998, showed that 70% of fatal dog bite victims (19 out of 27) were children. One was less than 30 days, three were between 7 and 11 months, nine were between 1 and 4 years, and six were between 5 and 11 years. Of these 27 deaths, rottweilers accounted for 10, crossbred rottweilers accounted for 2, pit bulls accounted for 6, saint bernards accounted for 3, and a husky, great dane, doberman pinscher, a crossbred great dane, a crossbred doberman pinscher, and a mixed breed each accounted for a single death.8


Dog Bite Fatalities by Breed 1979-1998
Breed 1979-1980 1981-1982 1983-1984 1985-1986 1987-1988 1989-1990 1991-1992 1993-1994 1995-1996 1997-1998 Total
Purebred
Pit Bull 2 5 10 9 11 8 6 5 4 6 66
Rottweiler 0 0 1 1 3 1 3 10 10 10 39
German Shep. 2 1 4 1 1 4 2 0 2 0 17
Husky 2 1 2 2 0 2 2 1 2 1 15
Malamute 2 0 3 1 0 2 3 1 0 0 12
Doberman 0 1 0 2 2 2 1 0 0 1 9
Chow Chow 0 1 0 0 0 2 3 0 2 0 8
Great Dane 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 1 7
St. Bernard 1 2 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 7

Crossbred
Wolf X 0 1 1 2 1 4 1 2 2 0 14
Mixed 0 3 1 2 1 2 0 1 1 1 12
German Shep 0 2 0 2 2 2 9 1 1 1 11
Pit Bull 0 1 0 3 2 3 1 1 0 0 11
Husky 0 1 1 2 1 1 0 0 0 0 6
Rottweiler 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 2 6
Malamute 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0 0 3
Chow Chow 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 3
Doberman 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2
St. Bernard 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 1
Great Dane 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1
Yearly Totals 10 20 26 24 22 34 24 25 26 27 242

Table is adapted from Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab G, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association; 217: 836-840.


Although rottweilers and pit bulls were responsible for 60% of the 1997-1998 dog bite fatalities, these breeds have accounted for far fewer fatalities in past years.8 An earlier study by Pinckney and Kennedy showed that from 1975 to 1980, 81 dog bite fatalities occurred in the U.S., involving only one rottweiler and no pit bulls. The breed that caused the greatest number of fatalities between 1975 to 1980 was the German shepherd, a breed that was not involved in a single human death during the 1997-1998 study period.9 Likewise, the proportion of deaths attributable to pit bulls has varied over time from 20% in 1979-1980, to 62% in 1987-1988, and down again to 22% in 1997-1998.10,8 Pit bulls are noteworthy in an additional respect. Although the most common fatality scenario in the 1997-1998 data involved a single unrestrained dog located on the owner's property, this was not the case for pit bulls, which were almost twice as likely to attack off the owner's property, as compared to other breeds.8

Dog bite fatalities are reported to occur less often in other developed countries. In Australia, a country with slightly higher dog ownership than the United States (42% versus 39%), the dog bite fatality rate was .04 per 100,000, between 1979 and 1996, and in Canada the dog bite fatality rate was .03 per 100,000 in 1995.11 The U.S. rate of dog bite fatalities was .07 per 100,000 between 1979 and 1988.10 It should be noted, however, that direct comparison of dog bite data between differing countries is complicated by the variety of ways that bite data is reported and collected throughout the world. 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:19 PM
we all know what the rateings are, that is why there are so many pit bull owners and defenders trying to educate people about the breed. But as it has been said time and time again not all dogs from one breed are to blame simply on rateings. I find it ill that people would rather kill a breed off rather then teach people about its history, its pros and cons and the facts, both good and bad. THEN people could decide for themselfs weither they like the breed or not instead of hearing/seeing the negitive reports and hardly anything positive.
Its all a matter about learning. Slowly we are getting there and you can see, if you research there are more and more pittys working with people so some of our learnings/teachings are paying off. 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:44 PM
KITANA,
dont forget when germany banned all pit bulls. They stole this guys champion pointer out of his yards and killed it because they thought it was a pit bull!!!!! 

Name: Tiffany_SPCA | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 7:56 PM
Yes, it is an issue. Any animal killing a person, especially a baby, is an issue. It is not, however, necessarily a testament to the breed as a whole. Honestly. 


Name: Tiffany_SPCA | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 7:59 PM
Candy those are great stats. I'm going to have to purchase those books and look into it more. Personally I'd like to do a nationwide study on bite statistics. Not number of dog attacks but the actual bite patterns in comparison to breed. For example- multiple bite wounds vs. single bite wounds which would be the difference, many times, between possible fear and defensive bites and actual attacks. 

Name: Petmaster | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 4:43 PM
We have to keep in mind also that specific dog breeds and mixes are not many times accurately identified, even by so-called Animal Control. So, the dog bite "statistics", I'm sure, aren't entirely accurate.

And do they report and have statistics for what the people were doing with the dog when they were bitten? 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:08 PM
What are you not getting. It's not about the Pomerainian who killed the boy or the 284 attacks on people by pitbulls. It's about the fact that it's not just pitbulls attacking and killing. That regardless of the breed there is always the potential of something like this happening. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 19th, 2006 11:29 PM
1993? 1998?

Try RECENTLY, after the Pitbull became popular!
And I notice that Pitbull crosses also rate high, in ratio, it means that the BREED is responsible for a fair number of attacks Id say.

Also, look up NON FATAL attacks. (The number of adults and CHILDREN who have been seriously injured!) 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 2:25 AM
exactly when do you think the pit bull boom happened?? It wasnt recently. The big BOOM came abouts in the 80's early 90's. Thats when the morons really started training them to attack. It was when the ASPCA did reports on dog fighting and talked about what methods were used(myth and fact) to make them fight and to make them mean and that is what really brung out the boom in attacks relateing to pit bulls. At least here in the US. Young kids were getting this breed and starving them, beating them, locking them away from all contacts with people all in the name of haveing the most savage breed around because after all that is what the profesionals told them made them mean. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 2:40 AM
thats not true either, the popularity of the pitbull has only risen since they became a fad. There is more now than ever 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 2:44 AM
again, when do you think that fad begain??? The newest fad in pit bulls that became a recent thing are the low riders and the BULLY looking dogs. But in whole the breeds "fad" happened years ago. Over here anyways. 

Name: candy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 2:51 AM
ATTS Breed Statistics
as of December 2005

Page 1: Afghan Hound - Belgian Malinois
Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent
AFGHAN HOUND 161 116 45 72.0%
AIREDALE TERRIER 98 75 23 76.5%
AKBASH DOG 13 11 2 84.6%
AKITA 438 320 118 73.1%
ALAPAHA BLUE BLOOD BULLDOG 6 4 2 66.7%
ALASKAN MALAMUTE 184 155 29 84.2%
AMERICAN BULLDOG 130 107 23 82.3%
AMERICAN ESKIMO 77 64 13 83.1%
AMERICAN FOXHOUND 2 2 0 100.0%
AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER 515 430 85 83.5%
AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIER 503 419 84 83.3%
AMERICAN TUNNEL TERRIER 2 2 0 100.0%
AMERICAN WATER SPANIEL 5 4 1 80.0%
ANATOLIAN SHEPHERD DOG 26 21 5 80.8%
AUSTRALIAN CATTLE DOG 160 125 35 78.1%
AUSTRALIAN KELPIE 6 5 1 83.3%
AUSTRALIAN SHEPHERD 561 453 108 80.7%
AUSTRALIAN TERRIER 16 13 3 81.3%
AZAWAKH 1 1 0 100.0%
BASENJI 157 104 53 66.2%
BASSET HOUND 32 27 5 84.4%
BEAGLE 59 47 12 79.7%
BEARDED COLLIE 45 24 21 53.3%
BEAUCERON 10 7 3 70.0%
BEDLINGTON TERRIER 18 17 1 94.4%
BELGIAN LAEKENOIS 4 4 0 100.0%
BELGIAN MALINOIS 205 185 20 90.2%

First Previous Next Last
BELGIAN SHEEPDOG 453 361 92 79.7%
BELGIAN TERVUREN 406 313 93 77.1%
BERGER BLANC SWISS 0 0 0
BERNESE MOUNTAIN DOG 155 133 22 85.8%
BICHON FRISE 27 21 6 77.8%
BLACK AND TAN COONHOUND 13 13 0 100.0%
BLACK RUSSIAN TERRIER 11 9 2 81.8%
BLOODHOUND 32 23 9 71.9%
BLUETICK COONHOUND 1 1 0 100.0%
BOERBOEL 5 5 0 100.0%
BOLOGNESE 1 1 0 100.0%
BORDER COLLIE 227 181 46 79.7%
BORDER TERRIER 98 88 10 89.8%
BORZOI 98 87 11 88.8%
BOSTON TERRIER 58 50 8 86.2%
BOUVIER DES FLANDERS 843 712 131 84.5%
BOXER 352 298 54 84.7%
BOYKIN SPANIEL 1 1 0 100.0%
BRIARD 292 234 58 80.1%
BRITTANY SPANIEL 103 93 10 90.3%
BRUSSELS GRIFFON 10 9 1 90.0%
BULL TERRIER 55 50 5 90.9%
BULLDOG 123 84 39 68.3%
BULLMASTIFF 108 82 26 75.9%
CAIRN TERRIER 44 31 13 70.5%
CANAAN DOG 4 3 1 75.0%
CANE CORSO 64 49 15 76.6%
CAO DE FILA DE SAO MIGUEL 2 1 1 50.0%

First Previous Next Last

Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent
CARDIGAN WELSH CORGI 58 44 14 75.9%
CAROLINA DOG 2 2 0 100.0%
CATAHOULA LEOPARD DOG 9 7 2 77.8%
CAUCASIAN OVCHARKA 4 4 0 100.0%
CAVALIER KING CHARLES SPANIEL 43 34 9 79.1%
CENTRAL ASIAN SHEPHERD 6 5 1 83.3%
CHART POLSKI 1 1 0 100.0%
CHESAPEAKE BAY RETRIEVER 96 82 14 85.4%
CHIHUAHUA 35 25 10 71.4%
CHINESE CRESTED DOG 31 23 8 74.2%
CHINESE SHAR-PEI 204 143 61 70.1%
CHINOOK 8 6 2 75.0%
CHOW CHOW 88 61 27 69.3%
CLUMBER SPANIEL 12 10 2 83.3%
COCKER SPANIEL 218 178 40 81.7%
COLLIE 801 633 168 79.0%
CURLY-COATED RETRIEVER 167 152 15 91.0%
DACHSHUND (MINIATURE LONGHAIRED) 22 19 3 86.4%
DACHSHUND (MINIATURE SMOOTH) 26 20 6 76.9%
DACHSHUND (MINIATURE WIREHAIRED) 19 15 4 78.9%
DACHSHUND (STANDARD LONGHAIRED) 31 22 9 71.0%
DACHSHUND (STANDARD SMOOTH) 42 28 14 66.7%
DACHSHUND (STANDARD WIREHAIRED) 23 19 4 82.6%
DALMATIAN 310 253 57 81.6%
DANDIE DINMONT TERRIER 7 5 2 71.4%
DOBERMAN PINSCHER 1438 1,104 334 76.8%
DOGO ARGENTINO 10 9 1 90.0%
DOGO CANARIO 2 2 0 100.0%

First Previous Next Last

Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent
DOGUE DE BORDEAUX 59 41 18 69.5%
DUTCH SHEPHERD 6 6 0 100.0%
ENGLISH COCKER SPANIEL 59 55 4 93.2%
ENGLISH FOXHOUND 3 2 1 66.7%
ENGLISH JACK RUSSELL TERRIER 2 2 0 100.0%
ENGLISH SETTER 19 14 5 73.7%
ENGLISH SHEPERD 5 5 0 100.0%
ENGLISH SPRINGER SPANIEL 140 118 22 84.3%
ESTRELA MOUNTAIN DOG 1 1 0 100.0%
FIELD SPANIEL 6 4 2 66.7%
FILA BRASILEIRO 12 9 3 75.0%
FINNISH LAPPHUND 6 4 2 66.7%
FINNISH SPITZ 10 7 3 70.0%
FLAT-COATED RETRIEVER 82 75 7 91.5%
FRENCH BULLDOG 18 17 1 94.4%
GERMAN PINSCHER 6 5 1 83.3%
GERMAN SHEPHERD DOG 2786 2,316 470 83.1%
GERMAN SHORTHAIRED POINTER 116 88 28 75.9%
GERMAN WIREHAIRED POINTER 17 14 3 82.4%
GIANT SCHNAUZER 232 172 60 74.1%
GOLDEN RETRIEVER 679 568 111 83.7%
GORDON SETTER 64 53 11 82.8%
GREAT DANE 247 195 52 78.9%
GREAT PYRENEES 129 108 21 83.7%
GREATER SWISS MOUNTAIN DOG 204 161 43 78.9%
GREYHOUND 58 47 11 81.0%
HAVANESE 5 5 0 100.0%
HOVAWART 12 11 1 91.7%
Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent
IBIZAN HOUND 30 27 3 90.0%
ICELANDIC SHEEPDOG 1 1 0 100.0%
IRISH SETTER 133 120 13 90.2%
IRISH TERRIER 10 8 2 80.0%
IRISH WATER SPANIEL 26 23 3 88.5%
IRISH WOLFHOUND 90 80 10 88.9%
ITALIAN GREYHOUND 39 30 9 76.9%
JACK RUSSELL TERRIER 54 44 10 81.5%
JAPANESE CHIN 4 4 0 100.0%
KARELIAN BEAR DOG 2 2 0 100.0%
KEESHOND 81 65 16 80.2%
KERRY BLUE TERRIER 49 36 13 73.5%
KOMONDOR 7 6 1 85.7%
KOREAN JINDO 1 1 0 100.0%
KUVASZ 39 30 9 76.9%
LABRADOR RETRIEVER 676 618 58 91.4%
LAKELAND TERRIER 5 3 2 60.0%
LEONBERGER 16 15 1 93.8%
LHASA APSO 26 18 8 69.2%
LOWCHEN 12 9 3 75.0%
LURCHER 1 1 0 100.0%
MALTESE 12 10 2 83.3%
MANCHESTER TERRIER 47 41 6 87.2%
MASTIFF 147 124 23 84.4%
MINIATURE BULL TERRIER 7 7 0 100.0%
MINIATURE PINSCHER 52 42 10 80.8%
MINIATURE POODLE 63 48 15 76.2%
MINIATURE SCHNAUZER 103 81 22 78.6%
Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent
MIXED BREED 734 627 107 85.4%
NEAPOLITAN MASTIFF 11 6 5 54.5%
NEWFOUNDLAND 169 147 22 87.0%
NORFOLK TERRIER 12 11 1 91.7%
NORWEGIAN ELKHOUND 121 90 31 74.4%
NORWICH TERRIER 13 9 4 69.2%
NOVA SCOTIA DUCK TOLLING 13 8 5 61.5%
OLD ENGLISH BULL DOGGE 2 2 0 100.0%
OLD ENGLISH SHEEPDOG 45 35 10 77.8%
OTTERHOUND 10 7 3 70.0%
PAPILLON 74 59 15 79.7%
PARSON RUSSELL TERRIER 1 1 0 100.0%
PEKINGESE 14 13 1 92.9%
PEMBROKE WELSH CORGI 182 142 40 78.0%
PETIT BASSET GRIFFON VENDEEN 9 8 1 88.9%
PHARAOH HOUND 52 42 10 80.8%
POINTER 17 15 2 88.2%
POLSKI OWCZAREK NIZINNY 10 5 5 50.0%
POMERANIAN 32 24 8 75.0%
PORTUGUESE WATER DOG 143 110 33 76.9%
PRESA CANARIO 12 11 1 91.7%
PUG 40 36 4 90.0%
PULI 23 21 2 91.3%
PUNGSAN 2 2 0 100.0%
RAT TERRIER 12 10 2 83.3%
REDBONE COONHOUND 5 5 0 100.0%
RHODESIAN RIDGEBACK 245 192 53 78.4%
ROTTWEILER 4650 3,834 816 82.5%
Breed Name Tested Passed Failed Percent
RUSSO - EUROPEAN LAIKA 2 2 0 100.0%
SAINT BERNARD 41 34 7 82.9%
SALUKI 60 41 19 68.3%
SAMOYED 272 214 58 78.7%
SCHIPPERKE 102 93 9 91.2%
SCOTTISH DEERHOUND 31 28 3 90.3%
SCOTTISH TERRIER 33 21 12 63.6%
SEALYHAM TERRIER 1 1 0 100.0%
SHETLAND SHEEPDOG 465 311 154 66.9%
SHIBA INU 23 15 8 65.2%
SHIH TZU 39 30 9 76.9%
SHILOH SHEPHERD 20 17 3 85.0%
SIBERIAN HUSKY 276 239 37 86.6%
SILKY TERRIER 18 13 5 72.2%
SKYE TERRIER 8 3 5 37.5%
SLOUGHI 1 1 0 100.0%
SMOOTH FOX TERRIER 52 39 13 75.0%
SOFT COATED WHEATEN TERRIER 34 25 9 73.5%
SPINONE ITALIANO 5 2 3 40.0%
STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER 59 50 9 84.7%
STANDARD POODLE 211 181 30 85.8%
STANDARD SCHNAUZER 56 37 19 66.1%
SUSSEX SPANIEL 3 3 0 100.0%
SWEDISH VALLHUND 1 1 0 100.0%
TEXAS HEELER 1 1 0 100.0%
TIBETAN KYAPSO 1 1 0 100.0%
TIBETAN MASTIFF 13 5 8 38.5%
TIBETAN SPANIEL 11 10 1 90.9%
TIBETAN TERRIER 11 6 5 54.5%
TOSA 3 3 0 100.0%
TOY FOX TERRIER 8 6 2 75.0%
TOY MANCHESTER TERRIER 13 12 1 92.3%
TOY POODLE 49 40 9 81.6%
TREEING FEIST 1 1 0 100.0%
TREEING WALKER COONHOUND 8 5 3 62.5%
VIZSLA 46 38 8 82.6%
WEIMARANER 204 162 42 79.4%
WELSH SHEEPDOG 1 1 0 100.0%
WELSH SPRINGER SPANIEL 5 5 0 100.0%
WELSH TERRIER 34 26 8 76.5%
WEST HIGHLAND WHITE TERRIER 52 45 7 86.5%
WHIPPET 178 150 28 84.3%
WHITE SHEPHERD 2 2 0 100.0%
WIRE FOX TERRIER 18 15 3 83.3%
XOLOITZCUINTLI 3 3 0 100.0%
YORKSHIRE TERRIER 37 30 7 81.1%
YUGOSLAVIAN TRICOLOR HOUND 1 1 0 100.0%

TOTALS 26,615 21,619 4,996 81.2%
found at this site
http://www.atts.org/index.html 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:06 AM
Again you just don't get the conversation. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:07 AM
We have been through this candy

The temperament test is not an accurate assessment of aggressiveness in dogs, because included in the assessment is fear. Fear is scored low and Pitbulls have none.
Whereas another breed of dog, might be very high in fear, but not aggressive, which sees these breeds scored low. Statistically, this is an error, which can see dangerous dogs scored high, simply because they have no fear....

An aggressive dog with no fear, not a very good combination.

As I said before....very academic....but incorrect. 

Name: LOL | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:15 AM
They are the statistics for temperament candy....you fool...lmao
Thats why it has PASS and FAIL at the top of the list you have cut and pasted...hehe

You need the statistic for how many are kept as pets! 

Name: Terri/Tiffany | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:17 AM
Dear, you forgot your name b4 and posted as Terri.....lol
slipped up didnt you?

For those of you that are wondering whats going on....Terri....is posting under the name Tiffany because Im proving her wrong too often...lol 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:19 AM
My sister's pitbull shows fear. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:22 AM
I didnt say they ALL dont show fear.....THE MAJORITY DONT

ITS THE BREED TYPE, ITS A CHARACTERISTIC OF THE BREED THAT THEY DONT SHOW FEAR. THEY ARE FIGHTING DOGS, REMEMBER!!!!!

Sheesh....its like talking to a brick wall 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:23 AM
But I know I must be wrong. He must just being showing something else when you raise your voice and he goes and hides because he thinks he is in trouble. He must being showing something else when he has an accident in the house and walks away with his head down and his tail between his legs because he thinks that he is going to be beat. 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:24 AM
Okay so wow...we just had a break through here. Okay so we have come to the agreement that some do show fear. Which means someone in there you have to believe that some of these dogs can gentle and not act on their agreesive gene 

Name: candy4117 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:36 AM
Yes, I know temperament test is not an accurate assessment of aggressiveness in dogs however, this test mesuares how the dog reacts to diffrent situations. As its been said most of the pit bulls that have attacked have been unprovoked. the dogs takeing this test are put in situations simular to those with strangers, sudden noises, people just walking by ect. Even if they showed no fear but were agressive wouldn't they have showed some kind of agression during this test? I mean after all, this test is looking for agression as well. 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 6:32 AM
And then.....comes the topic of Fear Biting.
Dogs that bite because they are afraid. But I wont even go there, its way over your heads 

Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 7:15 AM
and by the way.....

I took my daughter for a long walk today, there is a bush area behind our house that continues on for miles. With a bike path.
Everyone walks their dogs along it. Sometimes you get the odd stray dog.

However, it was the middle of the day and the track was deserted. I asked myself, now here I am with my daughter and If a stray dog come after us what would I rather it be.....A pitbull ?
or say a cockerspaniel, a sheltie, a lab, even a German Shepard.

I could safely say....Id rather anything but a Pitbull. Any of you ever asked yourself this question before? 

Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 11:50 AM
I don't think people asks themselves this question because no one wants to be attacked by a dog so they don't think to themselve, "If I had to be attacked I would want to be attacked by ______" The answer to this question is still none of the above. I don't care if its a pitbul or a little toy poodle.

For me if there is a stray I walk the other way. If walking the other way isn't possible then I panic and it doesn't matter if it's a pitbull or a toy poodle. I am as leary to stay dogs as I am to a strange person. 

Name: candy4117 | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 1:18 PM
Fact is there is no way to accurately study any aggressiveness in any breed. You can only get a ruff idea. Nothing accurate. 

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