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Name: Angela G.
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I went to the doc yesterday and she believes I have anxiety w/ underlying depression. In two weeks time, after she receives my blood test results and if she finds nothing physically wrong with me, she wants to put me on Paxil with counceling.

My question is.........have any of you had any experiences with Paxil? Do any of you know of any other alternatives I can ask about?

I already talked to the doc because I don't like the idea of taking any meds, she said in all of the cases she has ever had, in the past 2 years, she has never had any patients complain about side effects. She wanted me to look it up on the internet to learn more, I went to paxil.com and I still don't like the idea. Any advice would be appreciated. Thanx.
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Name: mary | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 3:45 PM
NO to Paxil.....has too many terrible side effects.

Alternatives:
5-HTP (0002)

5-HTP (5-hydroxytryptophan) is a natural supplement that converts in the brain into serotonin. Serotonin is an important brain chemical involved in mood, behavior, appetite, impulse control, and sleep.

Website for more info:

http://www.raysahelian.com/index.html 

Name: Jen | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 4:05 PM
I went to the doctors because I was tired and unmotivated because I was so tired. She wanted to put me on antidepresents immediately , but I didn't because I felt like she didn't want to really find out what was wrong with me. I went to a different doctor and he did the same thing, but I turned it down again because I felt like it was their quick fix diagnosis. So, long story short 2 years later I was still tired and way to run down and getting plenty of sleep so I went to a new doctor and found out I had epstein barr(sp?) which is a "disease" that causes you to be incredably tired almost like chronic fatigue syndrom. So, just make sure that your doctor is doing what is best for you and looking into finding out what is really wrong instead of just throwing pills your way. 

Name: cheryl | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 5:10 PM
My husbnd has been taking Paxil for at least 5 years. he has had no side effects. 

Name: Irene | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 5:18 PM
Hey Angela,
I don't know anything about paxil, but I would say no to it if I were in your position,
I'M the same, drugs during pregnacy is a no no for me,
up to you though, and as for cheryl's husband, evryone is different, and maybe if one is pregnant whilst on them, then thats a completely different story,
unless you are not pregnant, but still I have 2 girl friends of mine who were on something similar, it affected one of them yet the other was fine but after 1 year is cutting off them slowly as she feels worse off now.....
take care Angela
and God bless 

Name: Debra | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 6:06 PM
you are not depressed!!! You are a stay at home mom at her wits end there is a difference. Read a good self help book to pick yourself up. Plus I thought you were going back to school? when does that start? I think getting you out of the house and focusing more on your goals (since it sounds like that has something you haven't done for a long time) will help lift you up. Remember- you aren't any good to your kids if your not happy. The enviornment around you needs to change- not a prescription drug. Thats just my opinion. Good Luck. 

Name: cheryl | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 6:33 PM
in regards to Irenes advise....yes, everyone is different. i am not saying you do need to take it or you don't.....
i didn't kow you were pregnant. i don't think i would take it either if i were pregnant..... 


Name: p.c. | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 9:44 PM
I was on Paxil, and it really helped me when I was a single parent and dealing with a way out of control ex husband. But I was having side effects which I didn't realize until I spoke with a good friend who used to be on it and saw the side effects on me.
Now these effects are not the same for everyone so it may be different for you.
Paxil made me more agitated. I would have to be constantly in motion with my legs always jiggling (an irritant of my old boss in those days, lol), and the thing that I remember the most was constant dreams. I would wake up tired because I never slept very well, being able to remember at leat 10 different dreams a night, and feeling even more had been experienced.
That was the big thing for me.
So I asked my counselor and prescribing doctor for a change. They put me on Celexa.

Wow! what a difference.

It was so much better. Fortunately my ex started leaving me alone, and then I found a real man who had a job that was able to allow me to be a SAHM, and I no longer need the antidepressants. (Though this is not to say being a SAHM isn't tough, lol, but I don't have to tell anyone here that.)

Hope this helps. 

Name: p.c. | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 9:47 PM
oh wow, I didn't see that you were pregnant until now.

I wouldn't take antidepressants while pregnant, they are just now finding out things on how antidepressants are affecting unborn babies. I just read something about that a couple of months ago on Yahoo news. Paxil was leading the list of prescriptions that was a culprit.

Try to find other ways to ease. Exercise is a big one. 

Name: Angela G. | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 11:14 PM
Thanks Everyone....I really didn't know if I would get any responses to this, I will check into everything everyone has told me.

I also need to set the record straight........I'm sooooo not pregnant!!! LOL!! You all got me gigling here! I sooooooo don't need anymore kids. Sorry if I gave anyone the wrong impression. Pregnant or not I don't even like taking Advil or Tyenol unless the pain is so intense I can't stand it.

Deb - I have already started school, but I do it all from home :( After I get my high school diploma, I will be going to the community college here, but that won't be for another year.
I could really use a enviroment change however, I'm always home alone with the kids , I don't drive (I have a fear of driving) and it has been too cold to take the kids to the park. Many of you already know my honey is a truck driver so it is ALL left up to me during the week to get the kids up, dressed, feed and out the door and all over again come night time, you all know the routine. Come to think about it, I started feeling this way when he started driving OTR, (over the road), that probally has a whole bunch to do with it.

OK I have rambled enough.......Thanx again to everyone. 

Name: Angela G. | Date: Mar 8th, 2006 11:27 PM
Jen- how did they diagnose you? They are going to be doing a complete metabolic on me, they are checking my lipids and 3 more blood test that I can't even begin to understand. I was just wondering, can what you have be diagnoised by these blood tests. Thanx. 

Name: Debra | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 12:23 AM
Kay we are all adults you need to overcome your fears and learn how to drive. That is you key to independence. Go out there and get your license. Then you can drive to the park- or drive to anywhere just to get out of the house. That alone can be depressing. (no offense- even the most beautiful of houses can be imprisoning- maybe you need to rent the Shining!!) 

Name: Angela G. | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 6:43 AM
LOL!! Deb you are such a great person.............with you and ALL of my family and most of all, my professional truck driver for a honey........I soon will get tired of all the pushing and poking and I will soon drive! LOL!! Actually I have got the itch to drive, just to get away, you know? I drove all around as a teenager but then a friend got her and I into a car wreck, nothing major, no one was hurt, but since then I have HATED getting into a car.......I have gotten better however, I go on runs with my honey every now and again although I am always a backseat driver and I drive him insane! He's always telling me to go into the sleeper and don't worry. We went into a slide when I was pregnant with my 8 month old and I didn't FREAK!! That was a MAJOR MAJOR accomplishment for. LOL!!

Oh... I turned in my last history exam via the internet and I got a 96% I got one question wrong, my over all grade is still 100% but it still iritates me knowing I got that one stupid little question wrong!

Talk to you later! 

Name: 3 time nursing mom | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 10:17 AM
Remember the old adage.
If you fall off a horse, get right back on, because the longer you wait, the more difficult it will be.

Get on that horse Angela, lol.

As for the depression, I too wonder if you really have depression or just a whole lot on your plate. I know how hard I have just waiting for my spouse to come home at the end of his workday sometimes. I don't know how well I would do if he was gone for days like yours.

You definately must be a special kind of woman Angela.

Depression can be cured with a combination of meds and regular counseling. Many people forget the regular counseling bit I think. But that is more important then the meds.
If you are finding yourself incapacitated by your depression, you should give the meds serious consideration, but only if you are also getting regular counseling.

When I was suffering depression, after a housefire, I was in counseling and on Celexia, this helped a lot. But eventually, when I became pregnant, I had dropped the meds. My doctor told me that no studies showed that there were any side effects to the unborn baby. Reading between the lines I asked him if there had been any studies done, and he admitted that he did not know of any. (Why DO they DO that??!)

Anyways so I increased the counseling, and this worked well for me.

Then when I went on to breastfeed, although I was told again that I can go back on if I need to (I was going through some pretty bad postpartum) and once again another doc told me that Celexia was fine for the baby in breastmilk because no studies showed that it was transferred in the milk. But I choose to continue with my course of getting regular counseling and doing lots of exercise. The daily exercise helped a whole lot. I could really tell when I didn't have my walk.

Now I am no longer needing either the meds or counseling.

So that is my experience.

I wish you well Angela 

Name: Sirene | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 12:00 PM
Hi, Why do not u check with another doctor?, if u are depress why do not u speak to any person u trust maybe it can help u 

Name: Debra | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 12:10 PM
Want to hear what my old fashioned mother always tells me when I start to get depressed and feel sorry for myself? She tells me to go to the pediatric ward in the hospital and look at the children that are there. Go to a hospice and see the people that are dying. if you think you have it bad- that puts things in a whole new perspective. I never actually went the the wards to see the people- I guess just thinking about it made me snap out of it.

Read the book with Joel Olsteen. It really is uplifting. (Your Best Life Now).

That is incredibly great what you got in history miss perfectionist- of course your high standards that you keep for yourself could have nothing to do with your state of depression. If just one of your kids came home and said I only got a 96 on my history exam and I'm so upset- you'd be dancin the jig- however it is you so you still are not happy???!!! Can I slap you now!?!?!?!? (that was a kidding slap)

You know I'm starting to see two side of you girl- and I'm feeling a little empathy for your husband....I am sure you hold him up to those standards as well. You need to let it go. Be proud of yourself. The BEST part is all these scores go on your transcript and can you even image getting a scholarship to go to college!!??!! You can do it. (can that song...."Dream the impossible dream....." is starting to go through my head). I actually told my husband I'm going to apply to college just to see if I could afford to go back. Who knows- but its because of you that I'm inspired! Thanks Girl! 

Name: Jen | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 1:34 PM
Angela G.,

My doctor had me tested specifically for chronic fatigue through blood work. So, see if he had a test ran for that and if not ask him too. Hope everything turns out fine! 

Name: Angela G. | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 1:45 PM
OMG!! LMAO!!! Who can depressed with someone like you to talk to Deb!?! It's never fails, you always manage to get me smiling and laughing!

OK OK you got me pinned........I do hold my honey, (and myself)on things that is quite impossible to accomplish........I know this, but I still poke and prode him to do better.....I seriously have to change that if you can see through me and we only talk on a computer screen! OMG....I will work on that Deb!!

Now about that pediatric ward.........I don't think that would be a good idea for me...........I'm not saying it is a bad idea, MANY MANY people should do exactly that. I feel too damn much, that's my problem. When I was younger I went to the McDonald's for lunch, on my way out I noticed a homeless man and I gave him my lunch and apoligized saying, I'm sorry I couldn't help more, If I see a homeless person, I will literally give them my last dollar and still worry about him 5 months later. My good friend stayed with me with her son over the summer, her son had cerebral palsy (I know I didn't spell that right) and he is blind. She would have me watch him, I would sit with him, he would smile and laugh just by me knocking on the wall, such innocence and he is 20 yrs old! I would be in tears by the time she got back just by thinking about how his life must be and yet he could still be so happy. I'm the type that carries EVERYONES worries, not my own. It's not only the people who I am close to, but it is also people around the world I hear about. I know that sounds crazy but that is how I have been since I could remember. I had to stop watching the complete news cast, I mainly watch the weather now.

Now on the grades part..........I call everyone I know if my kids get a C!! Thankfully I don't hold my kids to impossible accomplishments......I do have serious talks with them about how important education is, but I don't tell them they HAVE to get all A's and B's.

I'm happy to hear I inspired you with my madness.......at least someone is! I will get that book and I will tell my honey someone out there feels for him.LOL!!! I will talk with you later hun and thank you for your words.......they do help out more then you possibly know. Take Care! 

Name: Angela G. | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 1:56 PM
Thanks Jen.........I will find out!

3 time nursing mom........I like the idea of counceling, I do need it and I think I'm going to talk to the doc about just doing couceling and see were that takes me. I'm not incapacitated by all this. I just got really tired of feeling the way I have been feeling the past 5 years. I'm not suicidal or anything like that. I just need to learn how to cope with all these things past and present. Everyone on here has helped out ALOT, I really did not think I would get all this feedback. So thanx again to everyone, your great and you all have been giving me more support then my family has. I'm grateful to you all. 

Name: Fiona | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 3:40 PM
The herb St Johns Wort has done well in clinical trials for mild to moderate depression. It has few side effects - do a google search on it and see what you think. 

Name: Angela G. | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 4:51 PM
Thanks Fiona.........I have heard of it before and I honestly didn't think about that.

Hey you all.........I may be without internet for a while, so if you all don't see me here, I'm not trying to be rude or anything, I'm just not able to get online. 

Name: Debra | Date: Mar 9th, 2006 5:24 PM
Hey I hear Jack Daniels really helps get you out of a depression...ha ha ha- nothin that a few chicken wings and ice cream sundaes can't fix....ha ha I really shouldn't be joking about it- I know its a serious issue- but don't you understand- you are on a SAHM website asking advice about how to maintain your sanity?? dahhhhh- talk about your oxy morons!!! We are all insane- the blind leading the blind or shall I say the mentally insane leading the mentally insane- especially when we're menstrating or pregnant right girls!!?? 

Name: Lisa | Date: Mar 25th, 2006 8:20 PM
Ive had depression ,anxiety,and some agoraphobia for years.Counseling doesnt really help much.Paxil made me want to sleep alot.Prozac is good for depression.Zoloft sent me into a panic attack.Good luck in finding what will work for you. 

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