First off if anyone has no good advice to give then dont even post!
Ok here goes,we are having a problem with andrew at bed time at the moment.
He has always gone to bed at 8pm without a fuss,as some of you know about 2 weeks ago he was poorley witha tummy bug,well when he was ill he had lots of cuddles and would fall asleep on either me or dan,Well now at bedtime he wont go to sleep.
This has been going on now for two weeks.
It has got the point were we are letting him cry it out,he only crys for about 10 mins or so but it is really upsetting to hear.
I find that if i go into him and let him fall asleep on me then he wakes up in night wondering were i am,but if i let him cry it out he goes through the night and is fine the next day!
Has anyone got any idea's on how to help him selttle before bed? ↓
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| Name: Hiddy | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 9:41 PM |
| Hot milk.... and Lynne.... Ive got the same problem....my daughter is a NIGHT OWL.....she goes to bed at 9.30 and still gets up at 6am... ↑ |
| Name: bebe9281 | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 9:42 PM |
| Let him cry.. Just as quickly as he got used to you being there everynight he will get used to you not.. He'll stop crying soon. I had to do that with my daughter. She is fine... Put him to bed and go on the porch with a glass of wine for ten minutes... When you finish your wine, he'll be done crying... ↑ |
| Name: lynne | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 9:44 PM |
Thats what i thought you might say,the letting him cry it out part i mean.
Thanks hiddy i will try the warm milk,he hasent had any sinse he was a baby so i will give that a go! ↑ |
| Name: Sezbi | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 9:47 PM |
| Name: lynne | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 9:48 PM |
| Sarah thanks but i could do with out silly smartasre comments like that! ↑ |
| Name: Sezbi | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 9:50 PM |
| what! some mothers do that :) dont get your panties in a twist lynne ↑ |
| Name: lynne | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 9:50 PM |
| Would you give oliver rum? ↑ |
| Name: lynne | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 9:56 PM |
| Name: Sezbi | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:02 PM |
| no i would give him vodka ↑ |
| Name: bebe9281 | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:05 PM |
| I would just go back to his normal bed time routine... He'll be okay.. What do I do with a son who wakes up two or three times a night just to have me check on him?? He's 2 1/2 and I think it is a little seperation anxiety thing.. Drives me nuts.. Can't let him cry He'll wake up his sister and then I will have two to deal with, while hubby lies nestled all snug in the bed.. Grrrr. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:17 PM |
| warm milk releases special enzymes that actually make you sleepy Lynne...this has been proven ↑ |
| Name: bebe9281 | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:18 PM |
| Ever tasted warm milk? Yuck. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:19 PM |
| A cup of warm milk is no magic sleep potion, yet it is probably the most common food associated with bedtime. Milk contains two substances that are known to be related to sleep and relaxation, the hormone melatonin and the amino acid tryptophan. The amount of melatonin in a glass of milk is minute, much less than what would be taken in a supplement. The amount of tryptophan in milk is also small. In addition, our digestive process is complex. Considering these factors, it is unlikely that a glass of warm — or cold — milk would shorten the length of time that it takes to fall asleep. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:19 PM |
| since this study it has been proven ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:22 PM |
Is it true that warm milk can make me sleepy?
–asks M.L. Ribindrandy from Seneca, NY.
By Andrew Klein, posted October 10th, 2006.
It’s not utterly out of the question. Like most old wives’ tales, there’s some scientific support for warm milk’s slumber-inducing capacity.
First, let’s tackle the most likely suspect: warmth. Warmth lulls most mammals off to dreamland, but not from within the body. Many behaviorists have noted that mammals nod off when warm, especially after a satisfying meal and a snuggle. So, is drinking in the warmth of delicious dairy enough to have any effect on us?
Maybe, but it would work even better if you bathed in it. According to Progress in Brain Research, a sleep textbook published by the Netherlands Institute for Neuroscience in 2006, sleep is induced more rapidly when skin temperature rises. (On a tangential note, if you do decide to bathe in milk, the lactic acid in the beverage is said to soften and exfoliate skin. But don’t expect to swim in the moo juice on the cheap. A milk bath in the swank spas of New York City can run you $600.) Having a glass of warm milk in your gut is unlikely to raise skin temperature enough to have any effect. So, cross “warmth” of the list. But what about milk’s nutritional properties?
Most people have heard of tryptophan in relation to Thanksgiving—this essential amino acid (a building block of proteins) is responsible for that inevitable nap after a big turkey dinner. Consuming foods that contain tryptophan has long been linked to sleepiness, and it turns out there are traces of the chemical in milk as well as turkey. In the body, tryptophan is converted to the sleep-inducing hormones serotonin and melatonin. But the amount of tryptophan in any food—including both milk and turkey—is not large enough to boost hormone levels so high that they would induce sleep.
Don’t fret, though—if you have been relying on a luscious lactose nightcap for a good snooze, you don’t have to downgrade from gallons to quarts so fast. There might not be a strong biochemical link between warm milk and sleep, but there may be a psychological one.
Infants often go right to sleep after breastfeeding. When an adult enjoys a warm glass of milk they may just be taking an unconscious, nostalgic trip back to this “happy place.” Who doesn’t enjoy a good suckle?
A study published in a recent issue of Neuroendocrinology Letters found that infants go to sleep faster after feedings. While no research has yet examined this phenomenon in adults, it’s not unreasonable to suggest that milk-guzzling grown-ups are unconsciously reminded of an infantile state which causes them to drift off.
So, if you enjoy drinking a little of the white stuff to make you pass out, go right ahead. It may be possible that you have conditioned yourself to the behavior, and drinking it really does help you sleep. There’s probably not much going on chemically—it’s more like a placebo effect. But remember, the only way for a placebo effect to work is if you keep on believing. ↑ |
| Name: Little Miss Tara | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:23 PM |
| lavender makes you sleepy as well. But agree with letting him cry it out. My little guy did the same thing. It took a week and then back to normal. I'm the type that I don't want to have my sleep broken. I don't like having them in bed with me etc. ↑ |
| Name: question | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:30 PM |
| just over from due date,but had a thought for you.Put a little honey or maolasses in his milk and rokc him while he drinks it say with his blanket and a story and make it clear when the clock says 8 it is bedtime and we will do this every night if he goes to bed without causing a fuss.You can even set a timer.This worked well with my foster son. ↑ |
| Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 10:43 PM |
| I am completely against "crying it out". Babies cry for a reason, not just to be heard. I think he probably just got off schedule from the illness and that is very common. Give it a bit and things will get back to normal. I like the idea of warm milk and a snuggle. Laying with the child works too and I still do that...then go to own bed once asleep. Chris used to fall asleep with lullibies on and me rubbing his feet!! ↑ |
| Name: roseywosey | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 11:00 PM |
| i read about letting your baby cry it out.. and its cruel.. babies dont realise you are gone and coming back.. they automatically think you are gone.. and your not coming back.. and they panic and cry and go into shock.. i think its really cruel.. sometimes it gets to the point of them ready to just shut down.. because they are so worried.. if your baby cries its for a reason.. dont just let him crying. ↑ |
| Name: roseywosey | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 11:00 PM |
| hope that made sence btw.. ↑ |
| Name: winniebear | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 11:08 PM |
Here is a artical i found that could be helpful ladies. Parents should recognize that having their babies cry unnecessarily harms
the baby permanently. It changes the nervous system so they're sensitive to
future trauma."
- Dr. Michael Commons, Dept of Psychiatry, Harvard
I just read an alarming article on this site about the “cry it out” method. While I don’t want to start a debate with this person, because she seemed well intentioned, I’m afraid she may be misinformed on the subject. I know my mother and grandmother were probably told to let a baby cry at night. However, I would like to offer some actual facts about the psychological and physiological effects on a baby left to cry himself to sleep. It is not “a baby’s job to cry”, as this article so egregiously stated. It is a baby’s job to be a baby…and that includes communicating there is a problem by crying. It is his only voice and you, as a parent, have taken on a responsibility to provide solutions for baby’s problems.
No one is saying a good parent will never allow his baby to cry. They cry a lot. Again, it is their only means of communication. However, a parent should never give up trying to solve whatever is wrong with their baby. It is a modern, western notion that babies should be placed in a large crib in their own room by themselves at night. It is also a western notion that babies should be somehow “trained” to put themselves to sleep and stay that way 8-10 hours. When a doctor asks if your baby is sleeping through the night, he doesn’t mean for 8 hours straight! Babies have different sleep patterns than adults. Trying to push a baby into some kind of deep sleep, or "independence” is not in the best interest of the baby, it is in the best interest of a sleep-deprived parent who wants to catch some shut-eye. (Child rearing has no short cuts, folks.)
The fact remains that “crying it out” simply does not work the way proponents of the Ferber method believe. An infant has not the faculties to cry hysterically, get it out of his system, and then lull into slumber. No, he has merely submitted into exhaustion once it becomes clear that his caretakers are not coming to help him. In the mean time, his blood pressure and heart rate have soared excessively and needlessly because no one has opted to comfort him. Babies need physical comfort, especially from their mothers. It should be noted that Dr. Ferber, the king of “Cry It Out” has since revised his famous works to include an alternative method. That’s right, the inventor of Ferber-ization (sleep training through crying it out), has realized he was wrong. ↑ |
| Name: Emma | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 11:10 PM |
| but ynnes son isnt a baby really his he, so does the crying out still applie to a child of his age?? ↑ |
| Name: Emma | Date: Apr 17th, 2007 11:10 PM |
| Name: lynne | Date: Apr 18th, 2007 5:59 AM |
Name: roseywosey • Date: 04/17/2007 19:00:16
i read about letting your baby cry it out.. and its cruel.. babies dont realise you are gone and coming back.. they automatically think you are gone.. and your not coming back.. and they panic and cry and go into shock.. i think its really cruel.. sometimes it gets to the point of them ready to just shut down.. because they are so worried.. if your baby cries its for a reason.. dont just let him crying
Here is the thing he is not a baby he is a little boy! ↑ |
| Name: lynne | Date: Apr 18th, 2007 6:02 AM |
Emma hit the nail on the head andrew is not a baby anymore!
I dont wnat to be making a rod for my own back by rocking him to sleep,he will then want that everynight! ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 18th, 2007 6:06 AM |
| lynne i dont know how old he is, but i was reading the other day, bananas are like milk also, they cause you to get sleepy, like i said i dont know how old ur son is, but perhaps like a little banana as a snack might help getting him sleepy. ↑ |
| Name: lynne | Date: Apr 18th, 2007 6:08 AM |
Maybe,but he is not a great fan of banana's he is like me he has to be in the right mood to eat them!
But i will give it a try thanks! ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 18th, 2007 6:09 AM |
| hmm well if i can find the list, ill be sure to post it, there was a whole list of things, but i love nanners so i remembered that. but ill try to find it. ↑ |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 18th, 2007 6:10 AM |
here is something i just googled, has some food lists.
http://www.askdrs
ears.com/html/4/T042400.asp
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| Name: lynne | Date: Apr 18th, 2007 6:11 AM |
| Name: Coartney | Date: Apr 18th, 2007 6:13 AM |
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