| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 7:02 AM |
Its a hypothetical statement McKayla
Just say you dumped a litter of puppies then, without the mother, in the wild....what would they do to survive???
They wouldnt go ANYWHERE NEAR people. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 7:03 AM |
| bonding with people is A LEARNED behaviour, it is not innate ↑ |
| Name: Mckayla | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 7:07 AM |
| Then they would be raised in the wild. Like I said a GROWN DOMESTICATED dog put in the wild wouldnt last. I never said anything about puppies without a mother. Quit trying to change what I say. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 7:10 AM |
| Well....I tried to say something hypothetically....and you took it literally ↑ |
| Name: Mckayla | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 7:17 AM |
| Like I have been trying to say you cant throw a domesticated dog out in the wild and expect it to live. That was my point. Of course if you have puppies in the wild they grow to their surroundings. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 7:49 AM |
| You could put a domesticated dog in the wild and it would survive ↑ |
| Name: Petmaster | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:19 PM |
| I'm sure soft minced meat and vegetables leaves nothing between a dog's teeth. ↑ |
| Name: Petmaster | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:30 PM |
No, a domestically raised dog would not survive by hunting like a wild dog or wolf would. It would pick garbage. Especially if it was raised around other small animals. They wouldn't see them
as a food source. ↑ |
| Name: Mckayla | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 3:46 PM |
| Thnak you Petmaster! Thats what I kept saying but she thinks she knows everything. And I said it as well that a domesticated dog that gets put in the wild would go to the nearest home first. And dogs would go trash cans 1st., They dont know how to kill when they have been domesticated their whole lives. ↑ |
| Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 4:36 PM |
| Mckayla petmaster has excellent potty trainging tips . Go to Help with potty training there is some great advice there. ↑ |
| Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 20th, 2006 4:56 PM |
| Sorry Mckayla, not only did I reply under the wrong posting I refered my responce to the wrong person! DUUUH stupid me lol! ↑ |
| Name: susan | Date: Oct 22nd, 2006 4:50 AM |
| yes, they often eat grass. ↑ |
| Name: Stacy | Date: Oct 23rd, 2006 10:39 PM |
| Name: Anna | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 1:59 AM |
| Its above normal they were created like that by God its pcaticly their medicine ↑ |
| Name: Anna | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 2:01 AM |
| Its above normal! they were created like that by God! its like their natural medicine ↑ |
| Name: Patsagilepaws | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 3:09 PM |
In reference to feeding raw, domestic dogs, and eating grass ect..
1) Ive been feeding raw for 7+ years havent had a dog choke. No problem with splintering bones of any type, have feed ostrich, rabbit, chicken, turkey, pork, trachea, heart, pancreas, liver,gizzards and all kinds of necks. No worry about parasites or any type of bacteria. Started my youngest dog as a pup on it with no problem and currently feeding a 13 yr old on it. You have to be aware of what you are feeding, how you are feeding it and how it is being consumed.
2). A dog tasting blood and turning aggressive is the silliest thing I have heard of. Herding dogs will nip, grip or bite sheep or cattle to correct them and I havent heard of them going crazy and attacking their charges.
3). I have 3 border collies looked them in the eye several times havent had them turn on, run out and start herding on their own and if they did I would put a stop to it immediately. They work when I NEED them to work NOT when they want to. As for herding children and anything else that moves...theres a real cool invention called TRAINING. They can be taught not to herd, been there done that with bc puppy and 1 1/2 yr old child, several cats ect.
3)if you are interested in feeding raw and subscribe to the idea of including veggies then they also should be fed RAW not cooked/steamed. Pureed yes but not cooked. Dogs do not have the digestive enzyme to break down the cells walls of vegitation inorder to absorb the nutrients so we need to grind them up to help in the digestion.
4) a domestic dog if dumped in a rural area will have a higher chance of starving to death than not. Unless there are such things as frisbees, ball,squeeky toys, and herds of wild kibble bags roaming free. They are for the most part clueless about hunting for food. The instinct is there yes we see it in the chasing of small squeaky toys, or other objects its called prey drive. However that doesnt mean that your "Fluffy" if lost in the woods will become a lean mean hunting machine.
5) There are some high quality kibbles out there you just have to be aware of what they are. When traveling I find it alot easier to travel with a bin of Solid Gold Hunde Flocken then a cooler full of partial defrosted chicken. Rule of thumb if it is sold in a Grocery store dont feed it. These are low quality kibbles full of only god knows what...I dont want to really know too disgusting.
6) bones in general are good things again you need to know what you are feeding. A weight bearing bone ie leg bone aka marrow bone, is very hard and can damage teeth. Knuckle bones are soft bone for the most part and can be almost entirely consumed. A cooked bone is a bone that will splinter soft uncooked bones do not. When feeding raw the bones in the meat feed are soft bones, vertibrea, cartilage, ect. ↑ |
| Name: Petmaster | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 7:01 PM |
All I meant when I talked about the raw meat thing was that it does tend to make a dog that wasn't RAISED on the diet more anxious and therefore more LIKELY to snap at you, whether accidental or intentional..... not that they turn literally into wild blood-thirsty beasts.
My dog had diarrhea for 2 days so I had to feed him boiled hamburger and rice to get him regulated. Normally, he will wait patiently for me to give him his bowl and I will put him in a stay and he will not start eating until told. I've done this same routine every day, twice a day, since I got him 2 years ago. Well, this time he nearly snapped the bowl out of my hand! He did this multiple times... and I had to practically scream at him for him to back off. And anyone who knows my dog will tell you, he is one of the most timid, non confrontational, well behaved dogs and listens very well. Also, he never is fed any table food whatsoever. When his bout was over and I switched back to his hard food, he was fine again.
And with the whole bone issue... you people that feed your dogs poultry bones seem to own dogs with small-medium size mouths, such as Border Collies and Shetland Sheepdogs. They're kind of forced to chew the bones so most likely wouldn't choke. I know for sure, if I ever gave my Doberman a chicken bone, meaty or not, he'd try to swallow it right down.
The main thing is, you need to know your dog well and know what to do if anything was to happen, and something very well could happen. Most people don't know either of these things so I wouldn't encourage it.
I see no point in doing so. They're accidents waiting to happen. ↑ |
| Name: Petmaster | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 7:07 PM |
| Did anyone see on the show Emergency Vets on Animal Planet when the Golden tried swallowing an 7 inch long stick it was supposed to be fetching? And that was just a plain stick! ↑ |
| Name: charla | Date: Oct 25th, 2006 7:11 PM |
| NO BUT OUR NIEGHBORS HAD TO CALL THERE VET ONCE BECOUSE HE SWALLOWED A CHEW BONE AND IT GOT STUCK IN HIS THROAT . THE VET CAME QUICKLY AND YANKED IT OUT OF HIS THROAT. ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 26th, 2006 3:43 AM |
I have heard that you should NEVER feed your dog chicken bones! One of the foundations of your feeding program is chicken! Aren’t you afraid your dogs will choke or the bones will splinter?
This is the number one myth associated with raw feeding. If I had a dollar for everytime I got an email or a question about chicken bones, I would be able to retire.
RAW chicken bones are wonderful food for dogs. They are soft, easy to chew and digest and readily available. NEVER ever feed cooked chicken bones! (or any other cooked bones, for that matter!)
I suppose your dog could choke on chicken bones, but he can also choke on kibble or one of his toys. If your dog is a gulper (i.e. swallows chicken pieces whole) he may do better with larger portions, either a half or whole carcass as opposed to legs or wings.
There are risks present with every choice we make, so it’s up to you to make the choices you can live with and feel comfortable with. Compare the risk with the benefits and make your own decisions.
Is kibble actually bad for my dog? He seems really healthy.
The main ingredient in most kibble is grain, which is NOT an appropriate food for dogs. Dogs have no nutritional need for grain and it is the root of many allergy problems. Many commercial foods have artificial color, salt,sugar and flavoring added to get the dogs to eat them. Just like us, dogs can develop a taste for junk food. (which is what I consider most commercial dog food, JUNK FOOD) Kibble is cooked at a very high temperature to create the familiar little nugget we are used to seeing. Cooking destroys enzymes, essential fatty acids, vitamins and beneficial bacteria. Cooking breaks down the proteins and amino acids in meat and destroys most of the nutritional value that may have been present in the food in it’s natural state. The processing kibble goes through makes all the dogs internal organs work harder to extract the nutrients that have survived the extruding process.
Dogs have teeth made for ripping and tearing meat, not chewing grains and veggies. Even the new generation grain free kibbles are highly processed and cooked at extreme temperatures. Species appropriate nutrition is the foundation of health for all living things, and kibble is not appropriate nutrition for a canine. Dogs can ‘live’ on poor quality food, just like it’s possible for humans to ‘live’ on McDonalds happy meals. If you are reading this FAQ page, chances are you would like your dog to THRIVE, not just survive.
Feed your dog what his body needs to thrive instead of falling into the trap of believing the commercial pet food companies expensive advertising campaigns. ↑ |
| Name: lol | Date: Oct 26th, 2006 1:31 PM |
1. hiddy
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