I wouldnt have a staffy near children either.
I never said I would, they dont breed staffies for aggression any more. They still breed pitbulls for aggression.
Staffordshire Terriers and Pitbulls are two different types of breeds.
Thank you
Any other advice you need, just let me know
Hiddy ↓
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| Name: Terri | Date: Oct 15th, 2006 2:45 AM |
| According to our society Staffordshire Terriers are pitbulls! Wow you really don't know anything. ↑ |
| Name: Doglover | Date: Oct 15th, 2006 2:49 AM |
| staffys fall into the same group as pitbulls ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 15th, 2006 2:50 AM |
Now Now Terri, dont loose your head,
No, as a matter of fact, Staffordshire Terriers and Pitbulls are two different breeds, although they are both classed as bull breeds. They have very distinctive differences Terri, one being the quite noticable difference in size,
If you have any other queries let me know, I am an expert in this field and can answer any of your questions
Thanks again
Hiddy ↑ |
| Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 15th, 2006 2:58 AM |
| No, they are not the same! according to people who dont know thier dog breeds they are the same . Pitbull Terriers and Staffordshire Terriers are diffrent breeds. They do lookk almost alike but there is a diffrence between the two. ↑ |
| Name: Doglover | Date: Oct 15th, 2006 3:04 AM |
| Half the people who hate pitbulls dont know that staffys and pibulls are two different breeds ↑ |
| Name: Join a Rescue Help all dogs! | Date: Oct 15th, 2006 3:44 AM |
Yes staffordshire terriers are pitbulls! Espically if you are the media. Anyhow homework time for you know it alls! The American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier and Staffordshire Bull Terrier differ slightly in their build and size, but are collectively called pit bulls. There is also a sub breed called the red nose pit bull which is prized by many breeders. The red nose pit bull is an American pit bull terrier that has a red, instead of black, nose and a solid red coat.
Pit bulls are very muscular dogs, ranging in weight from about 35 to 85 lbs (about 16 to 39 kg). Pit bulls have very short hair that is seen in a variety of colors and markings. A pit bull characteristically has a large square head with a very defined jaw. Pit bulls naturally have short floppy ears, but they are commonly cut even shorter so that they stand straight and pointy. The practice of cutting the ears is unfortunately used by dog fighters to help prevent wounds if the ear happens to be bitten by another dog.
Over the years, pit bulls have acquired a bad reputation for being aggressive, vicious and dangerous to people and other animals. However, the temperament associated with dangerous pit bulls is the result of irresponsible ownership and the use of pit bulls in fighting rings. Because pit bulls are strong, easy to train and eager to please, they have become a favorite breed for illegal activities. Sadly, many pit bulls fall victim to abuse by the training methods employed by dog fighters and in the fighting ring. Thousands of pit bulls are discarded daily because they end up in the wrong hands, are not aggressive enough for their owners or lose dog fights, rendering them useless to dog fighters.
The myths and stereotypes that surround pit bulls and their owners make up a very small percentage of the millions of dogs that are called pit bulls. One commonly held belief about pit bulls is that they have locking jaws. This belief is always false. It is physically impossible for a dog’s jaw to lock. However, pit bulls have very strong jaws which can be clenched stubbornly, making it difficult for a person or animal to free itself in the event of a bite.
By nature, pit bulls are very gentle, affectionate and trustworthy dogs. They follow commands willingly and are loyal, family dogs that love children. It is extremely rare for a well treated pit bull to attack without serious provocation. Pit bulls are very intelligent and make great companions and guard dogs.
Despite their great temperament, pit bulls are not for everyone. Pit bulls require a lot of exercise and they are very energetic. Someone considering owning a pit bull should be able to make a commitment to obedience training. An untrained pit bull can be strong, very energetic and mischievous, making it a difficult dog to handle. ↑ |
| Name: susan | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 5:57 PM |
| you take stupid to a whole new level. ↑ |
| Name: Mi | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 6:14 PM |
| You are incredibly uneducated. ↑ |
| Name: Tiffany | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 6:26 PM |
| Yes, some idiots do breed pitbulls for aggression. That's why most people with half an education get their APBTs from a RESPONSIBLE breeder. Did you go to college? If so what did you study? ↑ |
| Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 6:31 PM |
| They are from the same family and equally all can have thier charming ways, but they are diffrent breeds. All the bully breeds where eather bread for fighting or guarding! Pits are beeing poorly bread for fighting not for agression, they are not bread to attack humans they are fighting dogs bread to fight other dogs. ↑ |
| Name: Tiffany | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 6:59 PM |
I have another comment on the breeding of these animals.
Originally, yes, pitbulls were bred for fighting. However, if you do your research, you will discover that they were bred NOT to bite humans because their handlers would have to reach in and break up the fights. Any animal then that bit a human would be, for lack of a better term, killed. Not put down humanely usually but shot or beaten to death. ↑ |
| Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 9:15 PM |
| Tiffany they would have been killed, you are write Im so glad you mentioned that. We must not forget that they do have pray drives that a small child may anhance. The dog may not be able to tell the diffrence between the child and another dog. So I dont think that a bit of caution is to be argued with, but thats to be said for any dog. Caution! Caution! Caution! ↑ |
| Name: Tiffany | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 10:02 PM |
| Lindalu they actually would not have an enhanced prey drive for children. They can tell humans and non-human animals apart. They can however get jealous at the attention the child has been getting, they can get annoyed at the noise, and they can even just plain not be properly socialized with children and not understand them. There are many reasons why any dog could attack a child but it is rarely because of prey drive and if it is the dog was improperly bred. ↑ |
| Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 10:24 PM |
| Some times the properly bread theory can go against us. For instance take the Shepord breeds, they are hurding breeds! if we want a shepard that will have a strong hurding instinct we will find a breader that has proper breading so that the dog will be a good worker. Take that same methode and apply it to a fighting breed you will get a really good bread fighting dog. Of course we who respect the breed will not choose to fight them, they will live with us and if well excersized and worked they will not choose to fight. If you take the same well bread dog and dont socialize him or interact with him it may be a totally diffrent animal, thus having the ability and drive to attack his human counter part. Just a thought! ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 10:28 PM |
What a load of crap.
Ever heard of a recessive gene?
This is the reason why aggressive breeds can not be trusted.
and lindalu- herding is spelt HERDING not HURDING ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 10:35 PM |
| Didnt you guys go to school, dont you know about the mendal pea experiment?....lol ↑ |
| Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 10:36 PM |
| Hiddy.... or who ever.... you are! dont you have something else to do than to soil you shorts trying to get people flustered about a dog breed? If you want to get off, go visit a porn site! ↑ |
| Name: lindalu | Date: Oct 16th, 2006 10:39 PM |
| Oh one more thing since you are proof reading my thread, thats not the only word I miss spelled! ↑ |
| Name: candy | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 2:20 AM |
| I would never have my kids around people like you. People who feel they know it all, they are stateing facts and people who can't swallow the crap they are trying to dish out. Point made. ↑ |
| Name: Mckayla | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 3:59 AM |
| So sorry to tell you there Hiddy but American Staffordshire Terriers and APBT are the same. They are referred to in AKC as American Staffordshire Terriers. And the UKC and ADBA refers to them as APBT. I think you have an American Staffordshire BULL Terrier. Totally different than any PIT. Bull terriers are small like you are referring to . Spud McKenzie was an American Staffordshire BULL Terrier. YOU DONT EVEN KNOW YOUR BREEDS EITHER!!! ↑ |
| Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 4:18 AM |
Are they the same breed?
There is no right or wrong answer to this question. It is all a matter of perspective.
Perspective 1) all dogs, AKC, UKC or ADBA all originated from the same group of British dogs, making American Staffs, Staffie bulls and American pit bulls all the same dog.
Perspective 2) when the original British dogs came over, they became American Staffs and American pit bulls, however, the dogs which remained in Britain are somehow significantly different from the American dogs.
Perspective 3) all three of the "breeds" originated from the same group of British dogs, but have been bred along different lines and for different purposed long enough now to be separate breeds. ↑ |
| Name: Tiffany_SPCA | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 4:40 AM |
| American Pit Bull Terriers are not an aggressive breed. If you'd get your head out of your ass long enough to research them properly you would know that. ↑ |
| Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 12:09 PM |
Since I am an uneducated moran I figured I would go in search of some information on this.
History/Origin:
His ancestors were brought to the Unites States in the mid - 1800's by Boston-Irish immigrants. Originally bred from a variety of bulldogs and terriers, American breeders increased his weight and gave him a more powerful head. A forbearer to the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, they were originally bred to be a fighting dog. Bull baiting was banned in England in 1835 and these dogs are no longer been bred to fights. There is some complication in registries of this breed. The AKC considers the American Staffordshire Terrier as separate and distinct from the American Pit Bull Terrier, yet the UKC will register both as American Pit Bull Terriers (APBTs).
In America, the Pit Bull flourished. It was one of the most popular breeds, highly prized by a wide variety of people. The Pit Bull was used to represent the US in WW1 artwork; popular companies like RCA and the Buster Brown Shoe Company used the breed as their mascots. A Pit Bull named Petie starred in the popular children's television series, Our Gang; a Pit Bull mix named Stubby became a decorated WW1 hero. Pit Bulls accompanied pioneer familes on their explorations. Laura Ingalls Wilder of the popular Little House books owned a working Pit Bulldog named Jack. Famous individuals like Theodore Roosevelt and Helen Keller owned the breed. It was during this time that the Pit Bull truly became America?s sweetheart breed, admired, respected and loved.
In 1898 the United Kennel Club was formed with the express intent of providing registration and fighting guidelines for the now officially-named American Pit Bull Terrier. Later, those who wished to distance themselves from the fighting aspect of the breed petitioned the American Kennel Club for recognition of the Pit Bull so that it would be eligible for dog shows and other performance events. The AKC conceded in 1936 but only under the stipulation that the dogs registered with them be called "Staffordshire Terriers", the name of the province in England the breed supposedly originated in. Upon acceptance of the breed, many people dual-registered their dogs with both the AKC and the UKC. Lucenay's Peter (the dog that starred in the Our Gang series) was the first dual-registered Pit Bull/Staffordshire Terrier. The UKC evolved, eventually beginning to register other working-type breeds, and later holding shows similar to those of the AKC. Currently, the UKC is the second largest purebred dog registry in the United States, complete with strict bylaws that ban anyone who is convicted of dog fighting. The American Dog Breeders Association was formed in 1909 because of certain fanciers' opinions that the UKC was not doing it's job protecting and preserving the Pit Bull breed as they felt it should be preserved. The ADBA's goal is the same now is at was then: to register, promote and preserve the original American Pit Bull Terrier fighting-type dog.
The AKC eventually closed it's studbooks to American Pit Bull Terriers. They allowed registration only to those dogs with parents registered as Staffordshire Terriers. For a short period in the 1970's, the AKC reopened its studbooks to American Pit Bull Terriers. In 1973 the AKC added the prefix "American" to the breed's name in an effort to distinguish it from the newly recognized Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Today, only those dogs with AmStaff parents are eligible for registration. Both the UKC and the ADBA allow registration of AmStaffs, but in these organizations the dogs carry the original name, "American Pit Bull Terrier."
Today the Pit Bull has evolved into a marvelous working and companion dog, used for purposes as varied as those it originally performed. Pit Bulls are employed as police/armed services dogs, search and rescuers, therapy animals, and livestock workers. They compete in all manner of organized dog sports, from herding to agility to conformation to obedience and the bite sports like Schutzhund and French Ring. They make loving pets for children and seniors, and everyone in between. The are indeed one of the most versatile breeds on the planet. Much of this is owed to the activities it once performed. The harshness and physical demands of the activities molded a strong, healthy, stable animal, one anyone should be proud to own. ↑ |
| Name: JOJO | Date: Oct 23rd, 2006 3:58 PM |
| Pitbull is an AKA for Amstaff's, APBT, ect. ↑ |
| Name: Caroline | Date: Oct 23rd, 2006 8:21 PM |
"They have very distinctive differences Terri, one being the quite noticable difference in size,
If you have any other queries let me know, I am an expert in this field and can answer any of your questions"
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lol.
Obviousl
y,
you aren't.
[1] Staffies aren't regularly larger than APBTs. My APBT is 47 lbs. APBTs are supposed to be smaller dogs, ranging from 30-50 lbs, ideally.
[2] Staffies and APBT's are essentially the same breed. They were bred from the same stock of dogs and therefore have the same ancestors and the same history.
Just because more people breed Staffies for showing than they do APBTs doesn't change either breed's past, so you can drop the "pitbulls were bred for FIGHTING" thing now, if you are going to stand behind ALL of your comments about Staffies.
[3] APBTs are bred for ANIMAL aggression, not HUMAN aggression and that really does make all the difference in the world.
[4] Staffies STILL = APBTs. ↑ |
| Name: LadyB | Date: Oct 24th, 2006 12:07 AM |
Yes they are, genius. AKC= American Staffordshire Terrier
UKC/ ABDA= American Pit Bull Terrier and they are the same. They are only different on paper. They are from the same bloodlines.
Ya know, for someone who claims to know so much about pits, you sure are stupid. ↑ |
| Name: lalala | Date: Oct 24th, 2006 3:23 AM |
Hey what's up?
They are the different breeds, got something right! But your other information is false, they don't have locking jaws! ↑ |
| Name: Mckayla | Date: Oct 24th, 2006 2:48 PM |
Hiddy you really need to look at htis website. Scroll to the bottom.
http://www.realpitbull.com
/terms.html
Staffordshire
Terriers and APBT are the same. Their close relative is Staffordshire Bull Terrier. Which is smaller than the APBT. Do you not understand that? A staffordshire Terrier and Staffordshire BULL Terrier are both called staffys. So which one are you referring to ? ↑ |
| Name: Mckayla | Date: Oct 24th, 2006 2:49 PM |
| http://www.realpitbull.com/terms.html ↑ |
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