| Name: E | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 3:47 PM |
charla and rain - it's not their style, they would not be able to cooly sustain a conversation. Charla is sweet, but she gets excited. Rain gets it all out in one big heap, and leaves any heated conversation.
Lindalu - I doubt her self-control over extended time, too. It's Jeanie's trait. ↑ |
| Name: E | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 3:52 PM |
| I meant, charla and rain would sustain a fun and witty conversation, but not a heavy one. ↑ |
| Name: Layne | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 4:03 PM |
Well E I always spoke the truth and if you cant stand the heat get out of the Kitchen. and I guess a few did. as for Jeanie she came into this forum later and I dont see why she doesnt just come or leave. whats the big deal. get over it already. Oh thats right she's older and wiser. whatever.I hardly even spoke to that women.
Im kinda getting tired of talking about the ones that left. Im over it. ↑ |
| Name: E | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 4:08 PM |
| Lucky asked - I answered. I'm tired of talking about them, too. The funny thing is that we have so many new members here who don't know who those shadows are, and don't give a damn. ↑ |
| Name: Layne | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 4:21 PM |
The funny thing is Lindalu even called rain on it that day, but sucked up later. So she is still in the club.
I came here for medical reasons for my son and found some friends and the beauty of it was It was a safe place to come to get your true feelings out, opinions. but then some want to control the manner of the forum and when I didnt go with the team I was black balled. well that's how life is isnt it. Now the forum has taken on the same format. It isnt that safe now. It became conditional. just like life. i guess keeping up the tuff exterior like some do isnt such a bad idea. In the end. Im not leaving because a few want it back the way it was. or can it ever be again. just like all life's changes. it isnt easy. ↑ |
| Name: E | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 4:30 PM |
Exactly like life, that's how I've been always taking it - you can't control events, just let it be.
I don't however understand what you mean by saying the forum is conditional now? Who wants to control? From my view, it's disorganized now, no particular leaders and anyone posts what they want. ↑ |
| Name: Layne | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 4:34 PM |
| The old coming in with a new names, trying to control again. same people in my opinion. ↑ |
| Name: Layne | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 4:42 PM |
why not just come back then. Was it so God awful that they cant just come back as they were.
and lets say they want the forum the way it was. so come back and make it that way. I mean why cant they just move past the post that is upsetting. it will all settle in the end. If ignored. Its about pride, You swallowed yours, i did. so why cant others. Im only explaining this again because I think your mad at me E. It seems like you blame me for that day. when It was a opinion of mine. Rain chose to leave and all that went with her I guess thought the sacrifice of the rest of us was worth it. Now they come back in another name and want to come back but not at the expence of loosing rain.( conditional). But Im sorry I have to work and I would like to finish this becaue Ive been feeling it for quite some time. E-mail me if you would rather. ↑ |
| Name: E | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 4:52 PM |
Gosh, i am not mad at you, Layne. It's news for me to hear that you would be the reason of the past event. What I truly think, is that the unravelling happened because of Rain's inability to hear ANYTHING bad at all in her address. She eventually blamed it on you, because you didn't stop the naughty hooligans who dared to call Rain a single word. She got upset with all the people who called for truce. It's not your fault. She didn't like calls for truce, that's it. Remember, she was wating for Nicole to vanish. There's a problem with her.
Therefore, she will not ever come back. Nicole and you are still here. Me, who upset her even more, is still here. Nope, she'll never come. Unless she can elevate to another level, but she has to yet do it.
I see now what you mean by conditional. I, however ↑ |
| Name: E | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 4:55 PM |
| I see now what you mean by conditional, I personally don't think ANY of the 3 people are herek (rain, charla, lindalu). I don't know about you, I'm very sensitive to people's styles - and I havent seen theirs here. NoahsMama and EthansMom and Jeanie have dropped by sometimes and that's about it from their forum. Winnmom and Stacy participate in both forums. ↑ |
| Name: nicole miller | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:02 PM |
Not to make any more waves... but I'd just like to add my ending note on that.
I think that Rain really acted "holier than thou" in that entire situation... like she was somehow the revered Queen of the site and how dare I say something like that to her.... for her to make everyone pick sides like that was at the least childish. If anyone feels bad about her leaving, because they feel that they didn't "tell me off for her" then by all means take a few shots at me and redeem yourself. I wont be in the least bit sore, if that's what you need to do to get your friend's good graces back. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:04 PM |
SAHM,
Your post implies that this forum was disrupted by a troll. I am assuming that you are also implying that this is why many members choose to leave babycrowd. I do not believe a troll caused the split between members here. I think that the members who choose to leave are most likely passive-aggressive individuals. Meaning that they hold back their true beliefs and opinions because they do not have the confidence to express themselves. And then, a time comes when they can no longer hold back and they explode! They attack. Passive-aggressive people do not know how to handle conflict. That is what happened in this forum. Just an observation! ↑ |
| Name: E | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:08 PM |
Nicole, you are putting yourself in the center. It was not because of YOU, someone else could tell her a bad word. It was about HER inability to deal with that.
Besides, are you not aware of what was happening after? Did you not see her posts about Layne and Serina (the trucemakers) who she pout at? Did you not see my posts to her? I am her worse enemy now, in her eyes, you are just a tiny sore.
In a way, I am glad that very controlling environment is gone. ↑ |
| Name: nicole miller | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:11 PM |
| I didn't post much in the few days after, so I don't think I read that... I knew she was mad about people not "sticking up for her"... but not exactly who. From what she said when she left I was under the impression that it was very much my fault- I asked her to stay and ignore me - and then never saw her post again, I don't think. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:24 PM |
| Thinking of yourself as a victim is also a trait of passive-aggressive people. I think some of the people who permanently left this forum tried to act like victims when others would not back them up. Just an observation. ↑ |
| Name: nicole miller | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:26 PM |
| Are you saying I'm acting like a victim as well? Or the ones who left? ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:45 PM |
| Nicole I do not think you acted like a victim at all. I think some people acted like a victim when E would not take their side and support them. I think Rain acted like a victim. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:46 PM |
Nicole,
I think all you did was defend yourself. I would have done the same. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 5:50 PM |
| I also think E showed good character by having the courage to go against what the others wanted her to do! That takes a lot of maturity. ↑ |
| Name: E | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 6:47 PM |
Lucky,
I think what passive-aggressive means is not exploding at all. They seethe, releasing their anger over a period of time - over months or years. "Passive" meaning not able to let it all out right there or a short while after. What I am seeing here is seething. This is not an explosion. ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 6:58 PM |
| I think the explosion happened when the nasty comment was made regarding the "I would not wipe you off my shoe" comment was made by Rain. And, I agree there is alot of seething going on! ↑ |
| Name: luckey_in_life | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 7:29 PM |
| I think Rain bottled up her opinions of Nicole in past discussions and it eventually led to an explosion of negative comments during the "smoking while pregnant" conversation. I don't think she would have made such strong comments based on that conversation alone. Then some of the other members started bringing up old conversations they had with Nicole and started stating how they really felt. Opinions they had bottled up. They had been passive in the past and then they became aggressive. Now they are seething by retreating to a new forum they created in order to exclude others from this forum. This is how I see it. I could have it all wrong. Just my observation. ↑ |
| Name: Ayame | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 9:49 PM |
| Name: Layne | Date: Nov 17th, 2006 10:39 PM |
| E your correct and thankyou for putting my mind at ease. i couldnt bare thinking you might be mad at me over that fight. i agree I like the forum where no one is in control. no leaders. Its better this way. and Nicole rain was wrong for saying those things to you as you were also for saying some things too. But I myself respect you for hanging in there and saying your part in things. thats why you have earned the respect here. We all loose it from time to time. real people will see that. ↑ |
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