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Puppy
struggles for life after being set on fire
Two-month-old Miracle survived, but her four littermates died; two were hogtied at west side house.
Oralandar Brand-Williams / The Detroit News
DETROIT -- A 2-month-old pit bull puppy was clinging to life Monday from burns she suffered after being set on fire in an abandoned house on the city's west side.

Miracle, a black, brown and tan puppy, was rescued from a home in the 7400 block of Faust on Saturday evening after some teenagers reportedly set her and her littermates on fire.

"We are really worried about the amount of burns on her body and about sepsis and infection setting in," said Jim Thompson, the director for the Oakland Veterinary Referral Services in Bloomfield Hills

The puppy suffered third-degree burns to 80 percent of her body.

"She's on antibiotics right now in case pneumonia develops and for the burns," said Dr. Karen Fidell, a veterinarian at the hospital where Miracle was taken.

"It's pretty pitiful that someone would do something like this," said Fidell.

A Detroit police officer who was one of the first on the scene of the rescue named her Miracle. Officer Jennifer Halfacer, a five-year veteran and her partner, Officer Calvin Davenport, were out on routine patrol when they heard a radio dispatch for a house fire in the 7400 block of Faust.

When they arrived at the house they heard the puppies' cries.

"We heard the puppies squealing and screaming," said Halfacer. "But we couldn't go upstairs where they were because of the flames."

When firefighters arrived, they were able to rescue Miracle. Her four littermates died in the fire. Two had been hogtied.

A witness told police of seeing several teens take the puppies into the house just before the fire began.

After unsuccessful attempts to locate a veterinarian on call in the city, Halfacer took the burned puppy to the Almost Home animal abuse shelter in Southfield, where she is a volunteer.

The puppy was later taken to the veterinary hospital in West Bloomfield.

"I was glad to see that she made it and that not all of them perished," said Halfacer about the puppies' ordeal. Miracle "actually survived. I can't believe she made it."
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Name: LovingLauren | Date: Nov 9th, 2007 9:41 PM
about a month ago i saw an email about this dog that was set on fire...it showed pictures and everything.
its a shame that people say there is no animal abuse, when its happening all around us. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 9th, 2007 10:55 PM
COLD BLOODED bastards where the hell are the parents? 

Name: 10calama | Date: Nov 11th, 2007 10:09 PM
this is truly a horrifying story, but similar things happen to humans all the time, So I say fix human abuse before worrying about animal abuse. I do not in any way try to justify what they did, but more attention should be given to humans suffering similar fates at the hands of foreign dictators.

If I wished to kill my dog for whatever reason I would shurly do somthing much more humane. 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 11th, 2007 10:21 PM
This is a pet forum dear there are humanitarian forums out there for you to go to if you like. We choose to discuss animal abuse here because we choose to care for those who can not speak, and this is a pet forum. we do not need you ridicule or your down play of a terrible act. The problem here is we can choose to humanely put animals to sleep these kids decided torture to be more amusing to them. Lord knows there are horrible things that happen to people but this is not the place for this discussion. 

Name: lindalu | Date: Nov 12th, 2007 4:06 AM
These stories make me sick ! I don't understand why people can be so cruel. I only wish in cases such as this there could be an eye for an eye. 

Name: 10calama | Date: Nov 12th, 2007 8:52 PM
Lindalu, it is OK to feel something towards tortured animals, but don't start suggesting their lives are as important as ours. 


Name: LovingLauren | Date: Nov 12th, 2007 11:44 PM
when in here did she EVER say animals lives are more important than ours.
lindalu • Date: 11/11/2007 23:06:00

These stories make me sick ! I don't understand why people can be so cruel. I only wish in cases such as this there could be an eye for an eye. =
thats waht she said .... 

Name: lindalu | Date: Nov 13th, 2007 12:28 AM
Thank you for defending me Lauren. However.... I do believe 10calama is just trying to Russel my feathers. Don't let what he says bother you hon! 

Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 13th, 2007 12:35 AM
Honestly I don't know why you acknowledge 10calama she/he clearly is not here for the animals. Looking for a easy debate is why she/he is here. Why give her/him what they want? 

Name: lindalu | Date: Nov 13th, 2007 1:55 AM
Iv been avoiding his/her comments, I too have noticed the same thing. 

Name: LovingLauren | Date: Nov 13th, 2007 12:41 PM
i dont know.....i guess i know what it feels like to be ignored.
It's not a good feeling.....i dont know if i ever could do that
not until something goes on and on like PETA. 

Name: Jesus Saves | Date: Nov 13th, 2007 10:03 PM
I agree completely here!
Y'all make me really upset inside. fighting each other as if you weren't people, Quit fighting like animals. If i was a hunter i would kill you .Mother hating Lauren. She have clearly been smoking some of my stash i tired and trully disgusted with the state of affairs in this country. Peace I really really verry happy i could get my feelins out there yah no BOOOYAHH! 

Name: LovingLauren | Date: Nov 13th, 2007 10:53 PM
wait whoaaa?
i hate my mom???
HUH?
You're right Jesus DOES save :)
and i love him with all my heart, i'm proud to say im a Christian..but that's not what this forum is about
WHAT THE HECK DID I DO? 

Name: Christya Brooks | Date: Nov 14th, 2007 2:54 AM
Is Jesus saves on crack!? I can barely understand him or her. He seems a bit deranged to just insult someone like loving Lauren. Who is obiously a nice person!! Lets restore order and have an open discussion on this forum please! 10Calama You seem radical yourself I have read many of your posts. You seem to like to argue so here is a question for you. What came first the chicken or the egg, or the man that killed the chicken and took the egg. By all means have at her. Animal violence is digusting and should not be tolerated. In this century we need to put an end to radicals like you 10calama. It is you who bring tears to my eyes. You are blinded by they lies told to you. I have had a husband who worked for years in a meat plant. He has told me about the horrors. unspeakable horrors of what they do to animals that don't die peacefully .I will leave it at that. I am now a pround vegan who helped her husband quit his job and istead work on an organic farm in Iowa. i I'm trying to be positive right now but it is so hard. Instead of hating let us love each other and talk about pets! Love all From Chrystya
:) LOVE LAUREN!!!
:)LOVE LINDALU!!!
:)LOVE T-Rabbit!!! Meow
LOVE 10CALAMA!!!!!! Firey little dictator
:) Love Jesus Saves!!!!!!!! 

Name: Christya | Date: Nov 14th, 2007 2:57 AM
Pround Vegan!!!!!!!!
[PROUD VEGAN]
LOL spelling doesn't count right? right?
ANYONE??????
Sorry ;)
nothing but love 

Name: 10calama | Date: Nov 14th, 2007 3:10 AM
Christa Brooks, All I have to say is WTF. When have my views been radical, I have only ever spoken truthfully about facts that pertain to the discussion. I am not heartless towards animals, far from it. I beleive also however that animal death is a fact of life and humans can do it much cleaner and quicker than nature. If you have any questions about these facts please let me know and I will answer them to the best of my ability. 

Name: Chrystya | Date: Nov 15th, 2007 2:02 AM
Your veiws are radical, First you believe humans are more important than animals. That Humans should come before animals. When technically humans are animals so wtf back !
Second You try to impose your reasoning on any one who has a valid point in the case of lindalu. You are trying to brain wash her and instill your beliefs upon her. You are in effect a terrorist yourself. Listen to this definition of a terrorist. A terrorist is an individual who uses violence, terror, and intimidation to achieve a result. Does this sound familliar? Also You would rather a clean kill than a bloody kill. I'm sorry my friend but killing is killing. By saying animals are below us you justifing hunting, and killing. Doesn't the bible say something along the lines of you shall not kill?? What gives you the right to take another's away? Killing may be a way to survive, but in this age. A person can live as a vegan, living healthier and longer. Your Karma wheel is going to come around and kick you in the ass 10calama.
As alway nothing but love!
Chrystya OUT! 

Name: tina smith | Date: Nov 15th, 2007 2:46 PM
that's disgusting - i cant believe someone would do that to a poor animal that can't even speak up for itself 

Name: LovingLauren | Date: Nov 16th, 2007 11:13 PM
yaa tina that's why people are cruel to animals...well some or cruel to humans too but w/e
they can't tell and no one would ever know....
it just opens my eyes and tells me how bad are world is :( 

Name: 10calama | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 2:09 AM
Simply put, the only brainwashed people here are those who say animals are equal to humans. I am a religious person and my lord says humans have dominion over the animals of the world. You say animals can't speak up for themselves, that is because they have no consciousness, soul if you will, they cannot speak becouse they are machines, like plants, we too are machines but our soul, if you will, guides it.

Perhaps you don't understand, fair enough, you ,it seems, have been brainwashed like many to beleive animals and humans are the same, but those of us who have an understanding of nature know the truth. Say what you want, but these are the facts, and they are undisputible. 

Name: LovingLauren | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 2:13 AM
animals not having a soul is an opion
like i said they cant talk so how do you know ???
anyway..i WILL think what i want
because i believe animals DO have a soul :) 

Name: 10calama | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 2:17 AM
ok, thats your opinion, but you, not having been aroud the death of animals your whole life, cannot really know what the truth is in this particular instance. 

Name: lindalu | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 2:37 AM
I am a religious person and my lord says humans have dominion over the animals of the world.

Yes, 10Calama you are correct, I am glad you know your religious quotes. Its just to bad you don't know what that quot really means. It is not to say that we human have the right to kill the animals. All it suggests is that we are there keepers, meaning to care for them. Killing is a sin... it is one of the 10 commandments, I'm sure you have learned that. But any way ....this isn't a place for religious topics it is a pet board so I don't want to go on to religion here.

Your entiteled to your thoughts and I do see we will not see eye to eye, so I will agree to disagree with you on the animal humane issue. 

Name: Christya | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 2:37 AM
If animals are machines?? And people are Machines with souls?? you are saying animals don't have souls??
Animals not being able to talk. That line right there is ridiculous!! We are simply too stupid to understand other forms of comunication. Like animal body language. I think there was a gorilla named Koko that was taught human sign language and used it to comunicated with her trainer meanfully.
Also being raised around cats I can pick up different feelings and moods of my cats almost psychically. I know in my heart with out a doubt that animals can comunicate and have a soul. This may be an opinion, but its an opinion based on a life time of listening and loving. 

Name: Jesus Saves | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 2:43 AM
Helllo!
Don't you people have something better to do??
[Talk about Da Animals HAPPILY!!!!!!!!!!]
Not Angerly! 

Name: lindalu | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 2:57 AM
Christya thats right, there many gorillas that have been able to communicate with us via sign language. Also we mus sent forget Alex the African Grey parrot! he could speak the American language, being able to communicate feelings, hunger, shapes, colors and much more. 

Name: 10calama | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 3:04 AM
gorrilas and parrots imitate, they don't understand. For instance if a gorrila lears if he makes an ok sign he gets a bannana. He doesn't know why, he just does. humans can however express deep intelectual thoughts, parrots and gorillas don't come close to boasting that.

P.S. don't even try a religious arguement because you will lose big time. 

Name: lindalu | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 3:48 AM
10Calama, I will not wast my time debating with you humanity topics... or any other topic for that matter. You clearly have nothing positive to say! 

Name: 10calama | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 3:51 AM
What have I said tht's not positive. Second, why are you so hypocritical, saying for me to keep an open mind when yours is closed tight. 

Name: lindalu | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 3:57 AM
Put it this way 10Calama, one can only run in to a wall so many times before they learn to step around it. I have chosen to step around the wall, if you get my meaning! 

Name: 10calama | Date: Nov 19th, 2007 5:46 PM
No, I don't. Sounds like you are admiting I am right. 

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