| Name: tilly | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 9:17 PM |
For Hiddy
You are a fool and you must have come to get your diploma out of a rice bubble box.
I too am in Australia and am a registered dog trainer.
I think you are giving australians a bad name by your coments.
Any true dog trainer or behaviour worker knows any dog can be aggressive or bite.
You have blinkers on and listen too much to the Guru of fools Hugh Worth. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 9:43 PM |
Yes moron, we have already established that any dog can be aggressive and bite. Just that breeds such as Pitbulls do a lot more damage, in less time.
Why dont you try actually READING the whole arguement before you go commenting. Or are you illiterate? ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 9:45 PM |
| Im not commenting on this subject again. We have had the debate, and I won it. So stop rehashing the same old arguement over and over and over again. Talk about something else for a change. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 9:49 PM |
I didnt get my diploma out of a rice bubbles packet like you...no
and I studied animal behaviour which included training. ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 11:20 PM |
| I will belive it when I see it!!!!! ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 12:16 AM |
I would simply like to say there is a fruit of the poisoned tree fallacy present here. If there is an untruth at the core of an argument, then the entire argument is tainted. (which is not to say the argument is automatically wrong; but must be restated in order to allow for a proper debate.)
The "fruit of the poisoned tree fallacy" which is present, is the idea that a "pit bull" does anything, because the "pit bull" is a category of dog, and which dogs belong in that category is a matter of some contention and dispute. Some would place the English bulldog there; certainly these dogs were bred originally to fight bulls. But there is perhaps no breed of dog on earth so sweet, calm, gentle and non-aggressive as today's English bulldog.
Some would place the American Staffordshire Terrier there, and most dogs for sale in the newspaper classifieds identified as "pit bulls" are in fact AmStaffs. This is the breed, too, which in Britain is known as the "pit bull," while their own version of the breed, the Staffordshire Bull Terrier, is known as the Children's Nursemaid. Go figure.
There are a number of dog breeds that are often called pit bulls, most with no more claim to the name than having a short coat. Bullmastiffs, boxers, shar peis, Boston terriers, even many square-headed Labrador retrievers or greyhound mixes are often mistaken for pit bulls. A dog was killed a few years ago in England under its pit bull laws, all expert testimony and the dog's owner as well holding the dog to be a Great Dane/greyhound cross. So looks are indeed deceiving.
On a note aside from the obvious fallacies present in some peoples arguments, genetically, there is no difference between the tiniest Chihuahua and the tallest Irish wolfhound, nor indeed, with the wolf itself. Nor does the "pit bull" have a triple-hinged jaw capable of extraordinary feats of strength. As any owner of a ball-crazy Golden retriever will tell you, the clamp of the jaw is as much a function of psychology as physiology, and any dog can clamp down beyond the capability of a human to pry open.
Al W. Stinson, D.V.M.
Director of Legislative Affairs, Michigan Association for Pure Bred Dogs, and the Michigan Hunting Dog Federation, and a Member of the Board of Directors of the American Dog Owners Association
"The following quote was sent to me from Dr. Howard Evans, Professor Emeritus, College of Veterinary Medicine at Cornell University, Ithaca New York. We were colleagues in the veterinary college for four years. He is the author of the textbook, ANATOMY OF THE DOG, (the world's definitive work on the anatomy of the dog). His statement was in a letter addressed to me on March 26. 2002. His quote was: "I have spoken with [Dr.] Sandy deLahunta (the foremost dog neurologist in the country) and [DR.] Katherine Houpt (a leading dog behaviorist) about a jaw locking mechanism in pit bulls or any other dog and they both say, as do I, that there is NO SUCH THING AS "JAW LOCKING" IN ANY BREED. We all agree that the power of the bite is proportional to the size of the jaws and the jaw muscles. There is no anatomical structure that could be a locking mechanism in any dog." As a Professor Emeritus from the College of Veterinary Medicine at Michigan State University, I agree completely with their conclusion." ↑ |
| Name: rach | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 4:35 AM |
| wow this hiddy lady says she has all this education but dont talk like she knows anything. Pit bulls may be strong and could hurt people hardly any of them do. Im no genious like hiddy but i think everyone knows that thousands of people own pit bulls and very few attacks come from pit bulls. ↑ |
| Name: Kelly | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 10:48 AM |
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/P
itbullInformation/Urbanlegends.htm
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| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Oct 30th, 2006 4:35 PM |
| D.V.M ? hahahaha I did't think so. ↑ |
| Name: buver | Date: Nov 3rd, 2006 9:20 PM |
| whats the scientific name for pitbulls ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 4th, 2006 3:07 AM |
| Canis familiaris or American Pit Bull Terrier and Terrier Dog, Pit Bull, Pit Bull Terrier, American Pit Bull ↑ |
| Name: Haleigh | Date: Nov 4th, 2006 9:36 PM |
| The pit bulls do not have lock jaw. Because if they had lock jaw, you would have to break their jaw to get them off of you, or kill them. I know a pit bull that was hanging from a rope in a tree for taking pictures, and someone said oh my god, he has lockjaw. so we tried to pry him off the rope, and someone stuck a cigaretter in his face. when he inhaled, he immediately let go proving that he does not have lock jaw. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Nov 5th, 2006 8:53 AM |
Oh dear, go back to "know your vicious breed of dog" school
you know nothing ↑ |
| Name: mattuk | Date: Nov 7th, 2006 1:08 PM |
| There isnt a dog alive that is able to lock its jaws pit balls and staffords have stronger jaw muscles so they are able to hold on longer locking jaws is a heap of rubbish more research required by yourself I think! ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 7th, 2006 11:07 PM |
| Are we still fighting about the same thing??????????? ↑ |
| Name: willbe | Date: Nov 7th, 2006 11:26 PM |
| You know this crap it really getting old. I wish we could get back to the pet not jumping down each others throats cuz it is not helping people with where questions on pets. ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Nov 8th, 2006 2:56 AM |
| I could say the same to you "Why dont you try actually READING the whole arguement before you go commenting. Or are you illiterate? " ↑ |
| Name: lol fools | Date: Nov 9th, 2006 1:48 AM |
| ok first of all no locking jaws on pit bulls studys have shown no such thing exsist in k-9s and people soon forget that pit bulls are k-9s they are not wild crazy animals unless they are trained to be so. Yah when a person grows up int he ghetto they will be more aggresive than someone who grows up in suberbia behavior is a learned trait u dumbass didnt you learn anything in school? i guess not ↑ |
| Name: oneflatoniakid | Date: Nov 9th, 2006 5:06 AM |
I strongly disagree with your post.
It is slanted with a lot of scare tactics & half truths.
Bad owners, bad press is what gives Pits such a bad name \ rep.
What you just wrote is what most knowing owners \ animal lovers would call rubbish. ↑ |
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