| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 14th, 2006 7:04 AM |
Basically you have to ask yourself this-
If the dog was to turn on the baby, could it do a great deal of damage, has it got the strength and the equipment?
My answer is YES, it doesnt matter if the dog hasnt bitten anyone before. How many times have you heard about a fox terrier or a poodle tearing a child to bits? NEVER
This is because fox terriers were BRED to chase small things, this is a trait thats been bred into them, and poodles have been bred to be docile, most of them are skittish and will run away if threatened.
Dogs even like Staffordshire Terriers have been bred for aggression, its in their Genes, and when it comes out, you dont get the kind of bite a poodle or fox terrier would give you. It
wont stop, till what it attacks is dead. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 14th, 2006 7:11 AM |
And by the way, I was standing with a neighbour one day talking and she owned a Staffordshire Terrier, a little girl, (6yr old) from our street was there, she bent down and cuddled the dog and the dog bit her face. The owners response was "He has never done that before"
You hear this all too often from any type of Bull dog owner, be it Pit Bulls, Staffordshire Terriers, or Mastiffs ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 14th, 2006 7:14 AM |
And let me ask you all this?
Even though no one is answering me, (this is about the rudest message board I have ever been to)
Why do you have to own a Staffy, or a Pit Bull?
There are hundreds of Breeds out there? Why Why Why is what I want to know? ↑ |
| Name: Terri | Date: Oct 15th, 2006 2:35 AM |
Here's why HIDDY you answered it yourself:
Name: Hiddy • Date: 10/14/2006 21:04:26
Staffies were bred for fighting. BUT, because of their popularity over the years as a loyal companion the aggressive gene has become a lot less previlant in the breed. They have been bred as pets far more often than a dog to be used as a guard dog.
I dont know whether you have noticed or not, but the breed has also become smaller. I have also noticed that a lot of Staffies are now treated like Lap Dogs. lol
I think they are becoming a beautiful breed. I have a friend that has a little female and she goes everywhere with him, like a child...lol I think they are nice dogs, they are definately getting better ↑ |
| Name: mel | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 5:38 PM |
| i don,t claim to no it all staffy mum but to say your going to make your dog, dog aggressive is so sad. i am sorry your dog got attacked but two wrongs do not make a right how will you feel when your dog attacks another innocent dog because you have made them in your words dog aggressive. you are building up a side to your dogs personality to be aggressive and and it dosen't need to be there. I hope this aggressive side is never displayed on a child as the dog will not understand the difference of who it can be aggessive towards a dog or a child. your playing in very dangerous water. just bring the dog up to be a loving family dog. ↑ |
| Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 5:56 PM |
I would make sure to get your bull when he is still a puppy. Just like any dog regardless of age make sure that you bring something home from the hospital that came in contact with the baby that you do not care that the dog plays with or whatever. When you come home from the hospital make sure to greet your dog first, they usually recommend that the mom does this since she is usually the one who is taking care of the baby more often. When either of you are holding the baby make sure to not ignore the dog. They recommend that for a few weeks after the baby comes home that when you are not playing with the baby that you are not playing with the dog as well. This will allow the dog to learn that they are still apart of the family.
My sister has a pitbull and he is great with my son and hers. He's a big baby. The boys can pull his tail, his ears, can put there hands in his mouth, can sit on him and poke him and he just lays there. He has never nipped, bite or growls. But a watch dog he is not, however he is protective of the kids. Anyone who knows him though knows that his bark is alot bigger then his bite. He has never bite anyone for walking into the yard but most people won't do this since most people are freaked out by a barking dog and because the bull has gotten a bad rap all this time. ↑ |
| Name: Tiffany_SPCA | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 8:19 PM |
| ALWAYS keep them supervised. Never leave a child alone with ANY animal. Introduce them slowly , if possible through a baby gate or other enclosure until you know how the dog will react. Always ALWAYS be careful. ↑ |
| Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 8:22 PM |
| Yeah we slowly introduced my son to our Husky through a baby gate. ↑ |
| Name: Tiffany_SPCA | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 8:24 PM |
Hiddy- We don't HAVE to own them we CHOOSE to. We aren't trying to convince anyone else to own a pit we are just defending ourselves. In fact, I would not recommend a pit to most people. They are an advanced breed and only those who have been around animals and understand them very well should own one in my opinion.
Also- to your staffy comment. My little brother was bitten in the face by a Golden Retriever when he was 3. His owner freaked out and said he had NEVER done that. The dog turned on the owner when he pulled him off of my brother. There was blood everywhere-mostly from the owner.
Don't worry-my brother and the owner of the dog were both fine and, at least on my brother, there were no lasting scars. But it was definitely a scary experience and I do believe that had no one jumped in, my baby brother would have died. Of course that wouldn't have happened because my dad was just yards away and had the owner not gotten to the dog first my dad would have picked it up and slammed it so hard on the ground its brains probably would have been everywhere. He was a strong man. I would do it too if a dog were attacking my child. ↑ |
| Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 17th, 2006 10:24 PM |
| Yeah a couple of months ago there was a little girl where the same thing happened. The little girl was playing catch like she normally did with the golden and he turned on her. She actually had to have several surgeries to correct most of the damage but will continue to have scars. ↑ |
| Name: Tiffany_SPCA | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 12:49 AM |
| Poor kid. Retrievers have some of the highest bite rate statistics. ↑ |
| Name: heather | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 2:05 AM |
| i have a 5 yr old pittbull and a 3 year old son that dog will protect that baby with everything it has got dont b afraid of him and dont listern to rumors as some people dont like them i would never even think of having any other type of dog u have to remember its all about the way u bring them up not the dog ↑ |
| Name: graeme | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 2:09 AM |
| dont worry that dog will b fine with your son it is how the dog has been brought up not the breed any dog can bite ↑ |
| Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 2:14 AM |
* Any dog, treated harshly or trained to attack, may bite a person. Any dog can be turned into a dangerous dog. The owner or handler most often is responsible for making a dog into something dangerous.
* An irresponsible owner or dog handler might create a situation that places another person in danger by a dog, without the dog itself being dangerous, as in the case of the Pomeranian that killed the infant (see above).
* Any individual dog may be a good, loving pet, even though its breed is considered to be potentially dangerous. A responsible owner can win the love and respect of a dog, no matter its breed. One cannot look at an individual dog, recognize its breed, and then state whether or not it is going to attack ↑ |
| Name: EthansMom0213 | Date: Oct 18th, 2006 2:14 AM |
| Name: pagey | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 1:22 AM |
Congratulations on your little boy :)
As long as your staffie is well socialized with people and other animals it's amazing how loving and well behaved they can be.
I have three chrildren, 13, 3 and 1, and then 1 young staffie of 5mths (Ruby). Now i see Ruby as having a fourth child.
Now i don't mean that she sleeps in a cot and gets a bottle,but she has the same needs. she is teething at the mo so she needs to nip, bite and chew but also she needs lots of love.
I would never let my kids alone with my dog, because i know that my children will pull on her and grab her, and Ruby WIll do the same back but she has sharp teeth and lots of power.
I think it's a case of teach your children and your dogs to respect each other and you'll be fine.
They are called the 'nanny dog' but only in the right hands.
Lots of training and a close eye and you'll be fine.
good luck with your new bab x ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 1:26 AM |
you need to be careful bringing a baby home to a Staffordshire Terrier that already has its place in the pecking order.
Your wifes fears are totally founded. You need to implement routines and think of ways to introduce the dog to the baby NOW. Dont wait until the baby is here to start thinking about it. ↑ |
| Name: LadyB | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 1:34 AM |
| Any dog is reason to be concerned with a new baby. Introduce them slowly and with close supervision. Staffies, in general, are very good family dogs with very high intelligence and loyalty. But, in any new situation, you should observe your dogs behavior and try to be aware of any tension. Only you know your dog...you have to be the judge! ↑ |
| Name: saxton_emma | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 8:24 AM |
| maybe start putting babys toys and stuuf around the house so the dog gets used to them. maybe when the babys born and your wife is in hospital if she has to stay in you could maybe bring something home that smells like the baby and let your dog smell it. we have got 2 daogs one is a staffy and when i bought my baby home we made sure we didnt keep pushin the dog away from her, of course we made sure they didnt get to close, out staffy tends to lick alot..hehe.. hope that helps a little. ↑ |
| Name: Hiddy | Date: Oct 29th, 2006 9:13 AM |
| Just be extra careful around the breeds that have the potential to do a lot of harm very quickly....Staffies are one of these ↑ |
| Name: pagey | Date: Oct 31st, 2006 11:10 PM |
Hiya,
I've Replyed before but i thought i'd add my say once more.....
I have been putting my puppy stafford (Ruby) through the Kennel clubs good citizen dog scheme. ie puppy training with a top trainer, Foundation, Brons, Silver and then Gold.
I think it is wise to train your dog.
But you also have to do the same with you children!
Dogs are not a thing that you can teach tricks too. But this is well worth doing to make sure your family and dog will live happily together, and it's fun! ↑ |
| Name: mcbetzold | Date: Dec 27th, 2006 1:39 AM |
| Ok, now I have a question I really need answered. We have a blue pitt. He has always been wonderful around my two young children, they have jumped on him etc. On christmas he turned and bit my 2-year-old son in the face, and he had to get 3 stitches on his cheek, nothing really bad happened thank god. We are getting rid of him, and my husband wants a bull terrier, do they have a high bite rate on children? ↑ |
| Name: atomic snowflake | Date: Dec 27th, 2006 8:37 AM |
Yes, don't do it!!!!
Buy a Labrador!!!!!!! ↑ |
| Name: Lory | Date: Dec 27th, 2006 6:18 PM |
| To T-rabbit, AMEN...well put! It's soo refreshing to know there are some true animal lovers still around. I have read a few of your posts. Thanks!!! ↑ |
| Name: Lory | Date: Dec 27th, 2006 6:24 PM |
| Don't get me wrong here. I'm sure there are alot of true animal lovers here. Not trying to offend anyone. Just liking what I read on a few of T-rabbits posts! ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Dec 27th, 2006 7:20 PM |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Dec 28th, 2006 4:33 PM |
| WOW! I was really expecting every one to get mad about my post. Well I am glad to know you agree with it. It is a shame anyone can pick up a dog and call it their own. I can't stand people who abuse and neglect the animals they own. I really can't stand people who allow the kids to miss treat them and blam the dog when it acts like a dog.(dog thought) Hell lady if your not going to get your kid under control then I will. They don't speak if they could you would hear 4 letter words all day. I keep close tabs on my kids and pets. Yesterday I lost my little puppy mind on the girls. I make them stay out of the dogs face and they know thay are not to call the dogs in a room if I am not there. I came home from the store with toys for the dogs. The dogs were not any where to be found I asked my hubby and he said "I guess they went up stairs." The girls had closed them in the bed room. I made them stand at the wall for a while and they got one of my great dog safty speeches husband included. New rule in the house is if I leave the dogs get put in the pen. I won't take any chance of the kids getting bit because I failed to do my job as parent/owner. If your kid gets bit you failed as both owner/parent! STOP blaming animals for acting like animals the fact they don't act or rationalize is what separates us! Well I could talk till I am blue in the face and some people are still to ignorant to understand. So thanks for backing me up. sorry to rant but as you can see I get a little upset about this. Thanks and have a nice day. ;-) ↑ |
| Name: Lory | Date: Dec 28th, 2006 5:14 PM |
T-rabbit, I have read some of your posts. I agree completely with many of them. I believe it is the parents responsibilty as far their pets and their children. I know myself personaly I have tried to teach my daughter (11 now) since birth that any pet we may have are always part of the family. Whether they are dogs, cats, birds etc. That's how I was brought up! I cannot stand anyone who doesn't respect that! It breaks my heart to see any animal abused period. We used to watch Animal Cops on Animal Planet. I couldn't stomach it much. We had to stop watching it. We love all animals in our home. The only thing I truly have a hard time with is most reptiles... snakes especially. But...by no means will I intentionally harm one if not need be.
I also agree with spay & neutering. We live somewhat in the country. Some people's dogs are not locked up all the time. Including our blue healer. (she does not leave the property.) At 6 mos. old we got her spayed. I could not stand the thought of my baby getting preganant by some stray or some coyote at such a young age!! Anyway, so sorry to ramble on. You get the point. I wish I could take in all abused, unwanted etc. animals! I usually am always the one to take in the pets the family gets that they all of the sudden decide they don't want anymore! My hubby says I need to stop doing this, as they are eating us out of a house and a home! LOL ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Dec 28th, 2006 8:50 PM |
Lory
where are you at? Kentucky ↑ |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Dec 28th, 2006 8:50 PM |
| Name: T-rabbit | Date: Dec 28th, 2006 8:51 PM |
| *sorry don't know how that happen.* I am in Kentucky. u? ↑ |
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