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Name: lana_81 | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:00 AM
She talks about the twins alot! She has 3 sons and they know there brothers are in heaven! Every year on there birthday they let a few little ballons go! One of the twins died before the other a few days later the other died, a few days after that they induced her and she gave birth to them after a 14 hour labour! That would be so hard.. I have had a misscarage at 9 weeks and it was hard when it happend but it would have been worse later on!~ Id would have to be sedated if i lost one of my kids! hate to even think about it 

Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:01 AM
By the way you talk you want women to have free access to abortion up until 29 weeks. Never mind other support for women so they don't feel that that is their only choice. 

Name: sezbi | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:01 AM
ive had 1 m/c and that was at about 10 weeks too 

Name: M | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:02 AM
homemommichelle:


If abortion is not available "on demand," what is the point of it being legal? 

Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:03 AM
Sorry Rhonda. A miscarriage is not in any way your doing. Many times it is nature taking care of severe problems. God Bless. 

Name: M | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:03 AM
Why don't you just say what you really think michelle? Just get it all out. 


Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:04 AM
Right, so lets not have any restrictions....right?? Any time for any reason. Lets not discuss alternatives....
Lets not discuss other means for women to feel they have more options....
I thought you were done with me!! 

Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:05 AM
Sure:
I think abortion is an abomination (I MEAN THE PROCEDURE) 

Name: M | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:05 AM
"A miscarriage is not in any way your doing. Many times it is nature taking care of severe problems. "


I guess nature forgot a few children that were born with severe problems! What a stupid thing to say! 

Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:06 AM
I think it is a shame that it is done at all to women and children
I think there are other ways that should be explored, which you refuse to discuss.
I do not judge any person, I judge the law, and the doctor doing it.
I thought you were done with me! 

Name: M | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:06 AM
When nature misses a few children with severe problems--shouldn't medical technology intervene? 

Name: sezbi | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:08 AM
oh no thats wrong!!!!!!!!!!! 

Name: Dawn C. | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:09 AM
M-It is a proven FACT that most miscarriages happen because there is something severely wrong with the fetus and it can not possibly sustain life.

That is totally different than a child having problems that can live albeit with difficulties. 

Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:09 AM
a stupid thing to say??
No that is researched fact.
No I do not know why nature takes care of some and not others
I don't know why some can have kids that don't want them, when loving parents that do are infirtle
I don't know why you refuse to discuss other options for helping women and children besides this final and terrible choice
I dont' know why you said you are done with me when you are not. 

Name: M | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:10 AM
I am done with you michelle. It is obvious to me that you think all people who have had an abortion made the wrong choice regardless of their circumstances. They are just uneducated or taking the easy way out in your mind. The only time you agree is in the case of an etopic pregnancy. I however--do not think you have the right to judge other women that way. Deny women medical care when carrying a pregnancy to full term will result in the mother's death. Who are you to make that choice for a women? 

Name: homemommichele | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:25 AM
M you have obviously not read a thing I have said. I thought you were done with me before????? 

Name: atomicsnowflake | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 6:57 AM
Of course they can film in-utero. They use an endoscope with a camera attached. They have filmed the fetus's development in this way. 

Name: atomicsnowflake | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 6:58 AM
http://www.silentscream.org/ 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 8:43 AM
wow

This is going to sound really silly but I want to say it.

I have always known that an embryo had the potential to be born as a real human baby who could live like you or me. But when considering abortion myself, I just...seemed to ignore that fact. To me, I was carrying 2 shells, not yet alive. But reading what sarah pasted...that silent scream. My heart and stomach churned. I felt physically sick.

Its awful. I mean....that poor baby. I feel ashamed of myself for considering abortion. It hasnt changed my opinoin, i still believe abortion is right in most circumstances, just not as a contraceptive and they should be harder to have.

But....I just...dont think I could do it now...I would if i had to but...well i dont know what im trying to say...but sarah...that article you got was kinda "life-changing" if that sounds corny. 

Name: sezbi | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 9:17 AM
not corny at all..this didnt have such a HUGE effect on me until now..when i read that my heart just stopped....how anyone does it after reading that is beyond me 

Name: roseywosey | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 10:55 AM
just watched the video.. thats horrific.. i dunno what to say =| its cruel =( 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 11:18 AM
its the way they talk about the head floating...and allt he footage before it, showing it moving around happily, like a normal baby, and then its thrashing around...sarah you made me actually cry! 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 11:50 AM
emma? I didnt know youd had an abortion.

xxx 

Name: Emma | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 11:53 AM
yep i did a long time ago before i even had mia, i posted somethin about it on here along time ago, then hiddy called me a baby killer in one of the arguements so i never bought it up again really,
but reading what people have written has made me think about it more now, 

Name: roseywosey | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 11:57 AM
pfft who cares what hiddy says. shes messed up by the sounds of things. 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:00 PM
emma---

you are not a baby killer....Even if i was REALLY anti-abortion...I dont think i could ever slag of someone for making that decision...its not against the law....Im pro-choice definatley...I would have had one myself, but now iv seen that, I dont think i could. Not now.

but i have no issue with abortion...my friend who i am showing it too, has had 2 abortions...she's not quite 17 yet. Thats the type of a bortion I really dont agree with...she just treats it as an oops...it doesnt seem to affect her at all. I find it hard to speak with her sometimes...shes too...up her arse lol.

anyway emma, ignore insults aimed at ya chickie. People sometimes are too narrowminded to think outside their own opinions. 

Name: Emma | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:07 PM
Thanks nicola =]
Id never have one again, but at the time i was waay to young to have a baby, so i no 100%it was the right thing to do, and i was stupid to even let myself get pregnant in the first place.=/
but at the time, il be honest, i didnt think of it as a baby, i was only a few weeks, i didnt have any feelings towards it if you no what i mean.

i definitly dont think its right when people abuse the option to have an abortion, thats just flat out wrong,
its such a tough topic, everyone has there own opinion on it, and each situations different. 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 12:12 PM
emma i completely get ya. I didnt think of mine as babies and i was about 16/17 weeks when i was considering an abortion... I had TWO appointments before i changed my mind completley and just told my mum. 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 1:00 PM
.... 

Name: Nicolaaa | Date: Apr 21st, 2007 1:03 PM
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